Aragorn's late change of heart. - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Arwen Imladris · 11-03-2002, 09:24 PM

Sorry if this has already been done. I did a search but it did not comeout with anything.<P>In the movie aragorn acts like he doesnt know where he is going in life, with the whole "I'm like isildur" stuff in Imladris. But at the end of the movie, when Boromir dies and says the "my brother, my captain, my king" thing, Aragorn changes... I didnt even notice until watching it again, I saw boromir's arm gaurds - they have the white tree of gondor on them. When boromir's put in the boat after he passes on, he's not wearing them anymore, and we see Aragorn putting them on. Does this herald a change of heart for Aragron?

Helkasir · 11-03-2002, 09:36 PM

hopefully. He's gotta be through with the ancestral withdrawal. He's eighty, he a big boy, he can do it....

Diamond18 · 11-03-2002, 11:03 PM

It would be a good time for it...ending one movie and going into the other. FotR was the "Strider" episode...it should be all Aragorn from now on, don't you think?

Helkasir · 11-04-2002, 10:34 PM

probably, but I still think that he never really changed in the books; one of the very few constants was Aragorn's steadfast ways.

Diamond18 · 11-05-2002, 11:11 AM

Yeah, they did add that indecision into the movie. Probably they wanted to make him seem "more human" as if it was necessary. Or maybe more "sympathetic" after he was portrayed as nasty and dangerous in Bree. Maybe it did help non-readers to understand that he was Isildur's heir, and all. But then again, I thought Legolas made it pretty clear at the Council.

Helkahothion · 11-07-2002, 10:16 AM

Yes I do think it was the change. By wearing the white tree of Gondor he must have automaticly accepted the part of being the king.<P>(But that could also just be me)
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Voralphion · 11-07-2002, 06:09 PM

Aragorn would have to have changed at some point given that at the beginning of the movie he was a sissy who be his actions could never have become king. I think the reason for his change was that he saw that Boromir believed him to be the rightful air to the throne and that the people of Gondor would follow him. This gave him a boost in his self esteem which made him believe that he could be king, something he seemed to doubt. The taking of the wristguards signifies that he is now ready to be king, and that he would die for Gondor in order to protect it.

Diamond18 · 11-07-2002, 07:12 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Aragorn would have to have changed at some point given that at the beginning of the movie he was a sissy... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Now I have indeed heard everything, and I shall never be surprised by anything I read on this forum ever again.

Mintyztwin · 11-07-2002, 08:08 PM

I dunno. My definition of "sissy" doesn't really fit in with one guy warding off five wraiths all by himself. I think his character was a little . . . ah, confusing. That part about indicision was a movie add-on, right? I'm trying to read the books again, really! It's so sad! I picked it up, and couldn't even make it through the prolouge, my mind was so scattered!!! Waaaaah! <P>Okay. Enough about me! I liked when he put on the arm-guards 'cause it kinda signified where he was going. He wasn't part of the fellowship anymore, but part of the protection of Gondor. (Poor Boromir. sniff.) Okay, I have really randomly rambled on, and if it makes no sense, I'm really sorry!

11-03-2002, 09:24 PM	#1
Arwen Imladris Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a box with a fox Posts: 1,347	Aragorn's late change of heart. Sorry if this has already been done. I did a search but it did not comeout with anything.<P>In the movie aragorn acts like he doesnt know where he is going in life, with the whole "I'm like isildur" stuff in Imladris. But at the end of the movie, when Boromir dies and says the "my brother, my captain, my king" thing, Aragorn changes... I didnt even notice until watching it again, I saw boromir's arm gaurds - they have the white tree of gondor on them. When boromir's put in the boat after he passes on, he's not wearing them anymore, and we see Aragorn putting them on. Does this herald a change of heart for Aragron? __________________ "Wake up! Wake up! Wake up, sleepies, we must go, yes, we must go at once."

11-03-2002, 09:36 PM	#2
Helkasir Haunting Spirit Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Iron Hills Posts: 89	hopefully. He's gotta be through with the ancestral withdrawal. He's eighty, he a big boy, he can do it.... __________________ "Onen i-Estal Edain, u-chebin estel anim."

11-03-2002, 11:03 PM	#3
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	It would be a good time for it...ending one movie and going into the other. FotR was the "Strider" episode...it should be all Aragorn from now on, don't you think? __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

11-04-2002, 10:34 PM	#4
Helkasir Haunting Spirit Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Iron Hills Posts: 89	probably, but I still think that he never really changed in the books; one of the very few constants was Aragorn's steadfast ways. __________________ "Onen i-Estal Edain, u-chebin estel anim."

11-05-2002, 11:11 AM	#5
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	Yeah, they did add that indecision into the movie. Probably they wanted to make him seem "more human" as if it was necessary. Or maybe more "sympathetic" after he was portrayed as nasty and dangerous in Bree. Maybe it did help non-readers to understand that he was Isildur's heir, and all. But then again, I thought Legolas made it pretty clear at the Council. __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

11-07-2002, 10:16 AM	#6
Helkahothion Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The inside of Legolas' lungs Posts: 1,005	Yes I do think it was the change. By wearing the white tree of Gondor he must have automaticly accepted the part of being the king.<P>(But that could also just be me) ________ VOLCANO VAPORIZER Last edited by Helkahothion; 03-07-2011 at 03:58 AM.

11-07-2002, 06:09 PM	#7
Voralphion Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sharkey's End Posts: 267	Aragorn would have to have changed at some point given that at the beginning of the movie he was a sissy who be his actions could never have become king. I think the reason for his change was that he saw that Boromir believed him to be the rightful air to the throne and that the people of Gondor would follow him. This gave him a boost in his self esteem which made him believe that he could be king, something he seemed to doubt. The taking of the wristguards signifies that he is now ready to be king, and that he would die for Gondor in order to protect it. __________________ His sword was long his lance was keen His shining helm afar was seen The countless stars of heavens field Were mirrored in his silver shield

11-07-2002, 07:12 PM	#8
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Aragorn would have to have changed at some point given that at the beginning of the movie he was a sissy... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Now I have indeed heard everything, and I shall never be surprised by anything I read on this forum ever again. __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

11-07-2002, 08:08 PM	#9
Mintyztwin Wight Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The other side of crazy Posts: 212	I dunno. My definition of "sissy" doesn't really fit in with one guy warding off five wraiths all by himself. I think his character was a little . . . ah, confusing. That part about indicision was a movie add-on, right? I'm trying to read the books again, really! It's so sad! I picked it up, and couldn't even make it through the prolouge, my mind was so scattered!!! Waaaaah! <P>Okay. Enough about me! I liked when he put on the arm-guards 'cause it kinda signified where he was going. He wasn't part of the fellowship anymore, but part of the protection of Gondor. (Poor Boromir. sniff.) Okay, I have really randomly rambled on, and if it makes no sense, I'm really sorry! __________________ So, where are we going? But you, man of God, flee from all this, and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, endurance, and gentleness. 1 Timothy 6:2

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