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12-20-2002, 10:07 AM

Thingol, great point! I think "must" conveys the gravity of Frodo's position much more than "can"...<P>I also thought of something else this morning...Towards the end of the movie (note: I'm refering to PJ's use of hope...not Tolkien's), Frodo becomes completely submerged in his situation and cannot hope for himself. I love how Sam begins to hope for the both of them. If anyone has reason to despair I think it would be Sam. Looking at the rest of the fellowship, you have the front men who are used to the battle (Aragorn, Boromir, Gimli, Legolas)...then you have the hobbits who are a little bit accoustomed to adventure (Merry, Pippen), and even Frodo who once desired adventure. But Sam was sort of pulled into going along...a simple gardener. <P>I think one of Sam's main roles is to cling to hope for Frodo...One can only imagine if Sam sat down and gave up. Which brings more poignancy to Sam's "Hope" speech.

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12-20-2002, 10:07 AM	#6
Estel Edain Guest Posts: n/a	Thingol, great point! I think "must" conveys the gravity of Frodo's position much more than "can"...<P>I also thought of something else this morning...Towards the end of the movie (note: I'm refering to PJ's use of hope...not Tolkien's), Frodo becomes completely submerged in his situation and cannot hope for himself. I love how Sam begins to hope for the both of them. If anyone has reason to despair I think it would be Sam. Looking at the rest of the fellowship, you have the front men who are used to the battle (Aragorn, Boromir, Gimli, Legolas)...then you have the hobbits who are a little bit accoustomed to adventure (Merry, Pippen), and even Frodo who once desired adventure. But Sam was sort of pulled into going along...a simple gardener. <P>I think one of Sam's main roles is to cling to hope for Frodo...One can only imagine if Sam sat down and gave up. Which brings more poignancy to Sam's "Hope" speech.