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Old 11-19-2002, 05:15 PM   #24
Galorme
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He states the nothing was evil in the beginning and nothing is completely evil.
That’s a wonderful statement, and very true, thought it does conjure up a rather odd image. Which is this:

Maybe Túrin, after spending a long time in Mandos, repented on his hateful killing ways, and decided that Morgoth was just misguided and unlucky. Maybe he remembered the words of his sword and realised his warrior ways had only bought death to his family.

Soooo... he comes forth from Mandos, and slays Morgoth with the black sword? Maybe its a metaphor. Maybe what he actually does is sits him down, and slays the evil in Morgoth’s heart by revealing the revelations about war and death he made in Mandos using the example of Guarthang (sp?). So he “slays” the evil in Melkor, making him no more Morgoth the Dark Lord, and making him again Melkor the Repented.

He he, that sounded more and more ridiculous as I wrote it. But it could be a slightly more likely metaphor. The Black Sword represents the work of the elves, being the language and love they left in men’s hearts. Túrin represents Man. Melkor represents Evil. Túrin, being Mankind slays or defeats evil using the teaching of the elves. Thus Arda Marred becomes Arda Healed.

Note: Tolkein did not mean any of this, of course. He never used extended metaphors like this, to the best of my knowledge, unless he explicitly stated it was so. But I just think its fun.
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