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			 Tyrannus Incorporalis 
			
			
			
				
			
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			Tuor I don't quite follow your post.  Obviously Morgoth and Sauron could not bestow immortality upon the orcs, but I believe the original thesis of this thread is that orcs would retain their immortality after having been corrupted from Elves by Morgoth.  In other words: 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			1. Iluvatar grants the Elves immortality. 2. Morgoth turns the immortal Elves into Orcs. 3. Ergo, the Orcs are immortal. This is not a theory that I personally subscribe to, I was merely clearing that up for you since I do not think you fully understood the discussion. 
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