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The Kinslayer
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There is an interesting curse uttered by Túrin, when he mets Mablung in the final stage of the Narn in which he curses Menegroth.
From the Narn Quote:
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Scion of The Faithful
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines]
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And the Nauglamir, one of the causes of the ruin of Doriath, was delivered by Húrin from Nargothrond, as "payment" for the "fair keeping" of his son. Túrin killed himself due to Mablung's words. Húrin saw that, and probably was angry at Mablung - and Doriath, for many other reasons aside from this. So he adds this little item to his "Things to do once I escape this place" list: ~ Bring something to reward the king of Doriath for "taking care" of my family. (If it wasn't for him - and his subjecs - all of them would still be alive.) But another thing I ask here...who effected the curse on Húrin's hîn? children, I mean. All evidences point to Morgoth - through Glaurung - but... Quote:
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Pennsylvania, WtR, passed Sarn Gebir: Above the rapids (1239 miles) BtR, passed Black Rider Stopping Place (31 miles)
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And what of Eol's curse on his son (twice):
" 'Come, Maeglin son of Eol! Your father commands you. Leave the house of his enemies and the slayers of his kin, or be accursed!' But Maeglin answered nothing."..... "So you forsake your father and his kin, ill-gotten son! Here shall you fail of all your hopes, and here may you yet die the sdame death as I!" And how are free will and curses intertwined? |
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Corpus Cacophonous
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: A green and pleasant land
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![]() As I recall, there is quite a good discussion of this issue in the context of the curse laid on Hurin and his family here: Hurin and despair Edit: I hasten to add that I am not suggesting that discussion of curses in the context of free will should not continue here. I am merely providing the link as it is relevant to the issue raised. ![]()
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