The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum


Visit The *EVEN NEWER* Barrow-Downs Photo Page

Go Back   The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum > Middle-Earth Discussions > The Books
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
Old 12-04-2003, 07:40 AM   #5
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh
Spectre of Decay
 
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Bar-en-Danwedh
Posts: 2,178
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh is a guest at the Prancing Pony.The Squatter of Amon Rûdh is a guest at the Prancing Pony.
Send a message via AIM to The Squatter of Amon Rûdh
Pipe

That's very true, Lord Elrond: Morgoth always takes pleasure in warping and corrupting the purity of Eru's creation. However, my reading of the text above is that Morgoth's mind was simply filled with lustful thoughts (which incidentally are what prompt him to allow Lúthien to sing and dance for him), and that these lead to whatever 'dark design' he was pondering.

Bearing in mind that his lust comes first and foremost, he could be considering any number of horrible alternatives: he might simply be thinking about rape. On the other hand he might be considering that if he were to marry Lúthien it would torture Thingol, and possibly prompt him into a rash attack on Angband in which he and his army would be destroyed. Almost certainly Morgoth realised that any offspring of himself and Lúthien would be very powerful and a valuable asset for that reason alone. However, not only would any child of his and Lúthien's be a natural legal heir to the throne of Doriath, but also Morgoth himself, as Thingol's son-in-law, would become Thingol and Melian's heir apparent. This would leave him in an almost unassailable position for negotiating a surrender (the terms of which would be honoured on one side alone), and provide a lever for use on Thingol's people. It could also be used to goad and torment Thingol in the meantime, prompting him to rash action.

For Morgoth, this is a win-win situation. He can gratify his lust and in so doing create a situation that is to his advantage alone. Unfortunately for him, Lúthien perceives some of his thoughts and uses that knowledge to beguile him, the rest being 'history'.

You're right, Phantom: the idea of the best and brightest of the Firstborn being used as a concubine by the marrer of Arda himself is a horrible thought.

[ 1:26 PM December 04, 2003: Message edited by: The Squatter of Amon Rûdh ]
__________________
Man kenuva métim' andúne?
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh is offline   Reply With Quote
 

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:41 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.