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|  05-26-2003, 08:36 PM | #1 | |
| Wight Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Atop the peak of Kalormë 
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|  05-26-2003, 10:28 PM | #2 | |||
| A Northern Soul Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Valinor 
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			Simbelmynë is a white flower.  It means 'evermind,' literally, and is often found along gravesites because those buried there are 'ever (in the) mind(s)' of their loved ones. Gandalf points them out in Edoras as they observe the tombs of Rohan's fallen kings: Quote: 
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|  05-27-2003, 03:52 PM | #3 | 
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			I think that the simbelmynë flowers could represent the honor accorded to the kings of Rohan. On Helm Hammerhand's tomb, the flowers grew thickly, since he was one of the most famous kings. For Baldor (the skeleton in front of the Paths of the Dead), they never grew, since he was regarded as "that crazy guy" for claiming that he would pass through the Paths of the Dead (a drunken oath to be sure!).
		 
				__________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark. | 
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|  05-27-2003, 09:31 PM | #4 | 
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			And so, since he had no honor but that of his family, and he had accomplished nothing, the flowers of Simbelwyne would never come to honor him. *sniff*
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|  05-28-2003, 06:18 PM | #5 | 
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			I know, it is a sad story, but it also gives a physical example of the importance placed on practicality by Tolkien. I don't think he was the type who really liked people running off on foolish dares. In the words of Mercedes Lackey, "Glorious Destinies only get you Glorious Funerals." Baldor may have tried to do something "glorious", and he didn't even get a funeral to top it all off!
		 
				__________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark. | 
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|  05-28-2003, 07:51 PM | #6 | |
| Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location:  A green and pleasant land 
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|  05-29-2003, 08:10 AM | #7 | |
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