Anyone for a good debate?

[Manwe Sulimo]

Heh heh...time for some finger cramps.

In one of the HoMe books, it says that Túrin kills Melkor in the Dagor Dagorath (sp?), then Fëanor remakes/recovers the Silmarils, and Yavanna makes two new Trees, the Pélori are flattened, and the Light of the Trees is spread throughout the entire world.

I'm inclined to believe all this, since it's the only real outline of the Dagorath (again, sp?), and has a good ending [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img].

Here's where the fun begins....

After the Dwarves help Aulë rebuild Arda, they all leave to their equivalent of Valinor. Most (note I say "most") of the Elves also go to Valinor. Humans stay behind, because it's their world. They go to sleep á la Aulë while Arda is rebuilt.

...They awaken 15,000 years (give or take a few) later. Since all their cities/anything were destroyed in the Dagoroth, they have to start over. Middle-earth/Aman has been changed, not drastically, but significatly enough that the former locations can't be found too easily again.

The early human revival takes the form of the great civilizations (e.g. Greece, Rome, Egypt/Nubia), where technology stays put because of persisting racial memories. Sooner or later, though, remnants of humans who had not gone into the Great Sleep (heh heh...capitilizing my own creation) invade and, POOF! ...there goes the past.

Technology, sadly, goes forward, new civilizations arise (France, Britain, Russia, etc.) The past has been forgotten, the world is going downhill....but this time, there's no one there to help us. A pity.

Little quirky things: descendents of Elven bloodlines can still find the straight path, á la the Bermuda Triangle (that's where all those missing ships go!)

"Dwarfs", our little people, are descended from none other than out friends the Hobbits!

Location changes (vague):

The Shire: Britain
Gondor: Italy/Greece
Mordor: Turkey (mountains, oh my!)
Rohan: Germany/France
Umbar: Canaan/Palestine/Israel
Rhûn: Russia
Númenórë: Atlantis (yes, that fits in somewhere, too)
Valinor: North/Central America
(specifics...)
Taniquetil: somewhere in the Appelacians/Mexican Rockies
Tol Eressëa (don't laugh): Cuba

Ever wonder why the "Maya" (think, "Maia") had such cool temples/pyramids? And "disappeared" so suddenly?

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeee....


The END of Middle-earth will come with either
(as Rumil said) global thermonuclear war, or the explosion of Sol in 4 billion years.

Worship Eru, he is our Creator!
Fasting begins (and ends) on Midsummer, June 30.


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