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Tar Elenion · 11-12-2000, 08:14 PM

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Re: Valar forsake MiddleEarth?

Letter 156:
"The Wizards, as such, had failed; or if you like: the crisis had become to grave and needed an enhancement of power. So Gandalf sacrificed himself, was accepted, and enhanced and returned."
Later in same Letter:
"He was sent by a mere prudent plan of the angelic Valar or governors; but Authority had taken up this plan and enlarged it, at the moment of its failure. 'Naked I was sent back- for a brief time, until my task is done'. Sent back by whom and whence? Not by the 'gods' whose business is only with this embodied world and its time; for he passed 'out of thought and time'."

Initially Gandalf was sent by the Valar. After his death he was returned by something other than the Valar. That would be this "Authority". In the full context of this letter it becomes rather clearer that the Authority is Eru Iluvatar.

Tar-Elenion The High Elves had been in the hands of the gods praising and adoring Eru 'the One', Iluvatar the Father of All on the Mountain of Aman</p>

11-12-2000, 08:14 PM	#8
Tar Elenion Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 369	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Pile o' Bones Posts: 22</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Valar forsake MiddleEarth? Letter 156: "The Wizards, as such, had failed; or if you like: the crisis had become to grave and needed an enhancement of power. So Gandalf sacrificed himself, was accepted, and enhanced and returned." Later in same Letter: "He was sent by a mere prudent plan of the angelic Valar or governors; but Authority had taken up this plan and enlarged it, at the moment of its failure. 'Naked I was sent back- for a brief time, until my task is done'. Sent back by whom and whence? Not by the 'gods' whose business is only with this embodied world and its time; for he passed 'out of thought and time'." Initially Gandalf was sent by the Valar. After his death he was returned by something other than the Valar. That would be this "Authority". In the full context of this letter it becomes rather clearer that the Authority is Eru Iluvatar. Tar-Elenion The High Elves had been in the hands of the gods praising and adoring Eru 'the One', Iluvatar the Father of All on the Mountain of Aman</p> __________________ Tar-Elenion