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Old 05-08-2006, 08:27 AM   #26
narfforc
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The Voice of Saruman

Gandalf goes to great length to warn others of the power of Sarumans voice and deceptive arts, and not for nothing. When Gandalf asks Treebeard upon his return to Orthanc, about the whereabouts of Saruman and being told he was gone, Gandalf has this to say:

'but this snake had still one tooth left, I think. He had the poison of his voice.....

The voice was given weight by the power within the Istari Saruman, that power should have been nullified when Gandalf broke his staff, however if a remnant of that power resided in his ring, which we are told nothing of after The Council of Elrond, then he may well of had one tooth left. Now add this to the debate:

At the doors of Bag End Frodo says: 'Do not believe him! He has lost all power, save his voice that can still daunt you and decieve you, if you let it.

Frodo is saying that the only thing of power that Saruman has left is his voice.

The only thing we know of Orc production is what Tolkien tells us: ' they had life and multiplied after the manner of The Children of Iluvatar', I don't think anything is mentioned about slimy production pits as in the films or in Computer Games. The inter-breeding of the Uruk-hai would probably be no different than producing a mule from two different equine species, not a difficult thing to do without a Ring of Power. Even breeding between the races wasn't difficult, we have lots of Peredhil to prove that.
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