orcs and goblins- what's the difference???

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Morsul

... and also orcs(if we are to believe urks are just new versions of them as are goblins) also evolved into different categories. so either they are two different races or they have evolved....which is it?

There may be little room for evolution in terms of apes evolving into men, but I don't see why races should not become specifically adapted to particular living conditions over a few thousand generations. Maybe Morgoth even "created" them that way. Certainly, the Uruk-Hai did not evolve, but were specifically bred by Sauron.

Originally Posted by Morsul

... would you look at that goblins and orcs listed sepretely why would they do that if they're the same race hmmm....

I'm not sure what Formendacil is doing on the list( ) , but I believe that lmp has since removed Goblins as a separate category to take account of this very point. The list is, in any event, not definitive but represents lmp's opinion with input from those members participating in the debate. And there are some parts of it that remain rather hotly contested ...