The Ring of Saruman? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

narfforc · 07-11-2005, 05:02 AM

Has anyone given thought to the power or potency of this ring? For those who do not know of this ring, please allow me to elaborate. In LotR(The Council of Elrond)
Gandalf tells of his meeting with the traitor Saruman:

"But I rode to the foot of Orthanc, and came to the stair of Saruman; and there he met me and led me up to his high chamber. He wore a ring on his finger".

If this ring was of no importance, why did Tolkien/Gandalf refer to it, yet it is not given a second thought at the council. Can it be that Saruman in envy of Sauron is trying to appear as a copy of him? I do not think so, for a few paragraphs on this is said:

"For I am Saruman the Wise, Saruman Ring-maker, Saruman of Many Colours"

In this statement is Saruman advertising himself as a cheap jewelsmith? No, he is telling us he has made a Ring. Can he have done this thing?, almost definitely. Why?, Had he not studied The Lore of the Rings a long time, had he learned nothing at all? Was he not Curumo of the people of Aule, a Maia in the service of that Vala, as was Sauron in his beginning?. Where and how exactly did Sauron gain his knowledge?. If he was taught, then others also could be, if he invented them himself, others could also come to that knowledge by the power that is within them. How many of the Smiths of Ost-in-Edhil survived, Did Saruman the White in his fair face ever talk to them, did they give him knowledge thinking him to be amongst the good and wise?. Maybe The Ring of Saruman was only a lesser ring, but I think it had power, it was used to enhance his voice, and that power stayed with him even after his staff was broken.

07-11-2005, 05:02 AM	#1
narfforc Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Muddy-earth Posts: 1,297	The Ring of Saruman? Has anyone given thought to the power or potency of this ring? For those who do not know of this ring, please allow me to elaborate. In LotR(The Council of Elrond) Gandalf tells of his meeting with the traitor Saruman: "But I rode to the foot of Orthanc, and came to the stair of Saruman; and there he met me and led me up to his high chamber. He wore a ring on his finger". If this ring was of no importance, why did Tolkien/Gandalf refer to it, yet it is not given a second thought at the council. Can it be that Saruman in envy of Sauron is trying to appear as a copy of him? I do not think so, for a few paragraphs on this is said: "For I am Saruman the Wise, Saruman Ring-maker, Saruman of Many Colours" In this statement is Saruman advertising himself as a cheap jewelsmith? No, he is telling us he has made a Ring. Can he have done this thing?, almost definitely. Why?, Had he not studied The Lore of the Rings a long time, had he learned nothing at all? Was he not Curumo of the people of Aule, a Maia in the service of that Vala, as was Sauron in his beginning?. Where and how exactly did Sauron gain his knowledge?. If he was taught, then others also could be, if he invented them himself, others could also come to that knowledge by the power that is within them. How many of the Smiths of Ost-in-Edhil survived, Did Saruman the White in his fair face ever talk to them, did they give him knowledge thinking him to be amongst the good and wise?. Maybe The Ring of Saruman was only a lesser ring, but I think it had power, it was used to enhance his voice, and that power stayed with him even after his staff was broken.