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Old 07-19-2003, 04:26 AM   #9
Amarie of the Vanyar
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Amarie of the Vanyar has just left Hobbiton.
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Just everybody naturally forgets humble fox who saw three hobbits under a tree in the Shire
True [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] And we have also forgotten the spirit of Gurthang, the River-woman, ...

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If Maiar could not reproduce, then where did Luthien come from?
Melian could have children because she choose to incarnate completely as an elf, as is explained by Tolkien in the following quote (bold is mine):

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Lúthien was through her mother, Melian, descended also from the Máyar, the people of the Valar, (...) Melian alone of all those spirits assumed a bodily form, not only as a raiment but as a permanent habitation in form and powers like to the bodies of the Elves
The Shibboleth of Fëanor, note 53, HoME 12
Form this text it seems that Tolkien didn't wanted to allow any other Maia than Melian to reproduce, but he may have reconsidered it later and allowed other Maiar to fully incarnate and reproduce themselves ...
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But it is said that not until that hour had such cold thoughts ruled Finrod; for indeed she whom he had loved was Amarië of the Vanyar, and she went not with him into exile.
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