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|  05-04-2023, 02:24 AM | #1 | ||||
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				Was Pippin named after Gandalf?
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 Obviously not at time of writing; but Tolkien did go out of his way not only to define 'peregrin' as a traveller, rather than say a bird, but also to give a Westron version which has phonetic similarities to Gandalf's name. For bonus points: Pippin's father is Paladin, which Wiktionary tells me means a knight (obviously), is derived from "palace", and originally meant one of the Twelve Companions of Charlemagne. It's a stretch, but... there are twelve Houses of Gondolin, and the lord of one of them may have returned to Middle-earth alongside Mithrandir. Could Paladin's Westron name come from a nickname/epesse of Glorfindel after his return? I know, it's a stretch, but it would make sense for the father-and-son Elvish names to be from the same ancient tale. hS 
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