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Spirit of the Lonely Star
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Interesting topic Sardy! And good points Raynor. But regarding Aiwendil, I would argue that he did retain mastery of shapes and hues, even as an istari.
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Yes, I know we can rationalize Beorn's abilities and make him a beserker in a bear skin rather than a true bear, but I do not think this is what Tolkien intended. Certain characters in his Legendarium still have one foot in faerie. The critical point here is the way we interpret the race of men. Perhaps the "Man" of Middle-earth could exhibit somewhat different characteristics than those we now regard as typical for modern man. Not only do we have the example of a shape-shifting man in The Hobbit but just look at how long the men of Numenor lived. Their lifespan far exceeded that of any "normal" human. It is very true that the istari had to take on human form, which meant they were subject to hunger, weariness, and even death. But at the same time I don't think we can automatically assume that our own ideas about what a man is and isn't were exactly those that Tolkien held. Note also the wording of this text in UT that pertains to the istari : Quote:
When Gandalf died and was remade, how much of this was a physical remaking and how much was simply taking off the restrictions that had bound him up till that point? There may have been a little of both involved, but wasn't the removal of the restrictions really the most important of the two?
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