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			  Name the Men that were alowed to enter Gondolin. 
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			Húrin and Huor?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			...and Tuor.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Well, you're both right. So the first of you that gets here can ask the next question.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Alright, if Valier doesn't want to, I will. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Nobody? Not one guess?  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Gurthang was the only sword wich was never in Gondolin
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			Correct, of course. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			and to think that I was about to say that it was because Gurthang was the only one reforged. . . . good thing I changed my mind. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	Wich grave is said to have survived the destruction of Beleriand. (The grave was in Beleriand of course) I know it kind of goes into the second age and are not realy a good question, but my mind does not work to day.  | 
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			Morwen's grave.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			yup 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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				Fun times as always...
			 
			
			
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			What was the Cum nan Arasaith? 
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			The Mound of Avarice, if memory serves.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Fine job, hit us with another.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			What is the oldest heirlom of Men?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			The sceptre of the northen kingdom of Arnor, formerly the sceptre of the Lords of Anadunie of Numenore.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			I would think that it was The Ring of Barahir
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			Either that or the Dragonhelm of Dor-lómin, I think.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Didn't Beor have a staff or something...
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Rune Son of Bjarne  has it right - it was the Ring of Barahir. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Thanks for the thread. . . 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	Who met his ending at the Caragdűr ? (Not the best of questions)  | 
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			yup. . .take it away thou kitten one
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			On what day did the Nirnaeth Arnoediad begin?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			What day of the battle did it begin is what I am looking for.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			in the spring of 471 First Age, on Midsummer's Day, I do believe.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I am looking for a specific day.......How many days of battle went by before this day?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Oh, I think I see what you're asking.  It was the fourth day of the war that the Nirnaeth officially began - before I thought you just wanted the start of the war in general.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Your correct!!! It was the fourth day. The thread is yours Celebriel.  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			 
		
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			All right  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			![]() edit - i just realized my question was very close to a previous one I had not seen. New question : Who was called the Club-foot? 
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			He was Sador, Hurin's servant and Turin's friend.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Not quite the one I am looking for, however he is connected to Turin.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Brandir then, by any chance?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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 The question was for the oldest heirloom of Men, wasn't it? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Ring of Barahir was forged by an Elven craftsman, not a Man. It was then given to Beren by Finrod Felagund I think, to pass down all the generations before arriving with Aragorn. Been a while since I read The Silmarillion, but I think that's correct.  | 
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			yes it was made by elves, but never an elven heirloom. It was given to men and became an heirloom in their house. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			Very good point, Tarpaladin, I thought the same way until recently when I discovered otherwise on another forum  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			![]() Anyways, Thinlomien now has the thread -the answer I sought was indeed Brandir. Sorry for the delay! I went home for the weekend and didn't have any internet access. 
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			Which son(s) of Fëanor died first?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			this is just off the top of my head, but was it Celegorm?  Either him or the twins, methinks.  It's been several years since I last read the Sil, so my memory's hazy at best when I don't take the time to look something up.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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