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Nazgûl-king · 12-26-2007, 01:08 PM

Who do you think would have become ring-bearer if Frodo had died in Moria? Do you think a backup bearer was assigned by the Council of Elrond to carry the Ring if Frodo dies? I think Sam would have been made backup-bearer for his loyalty to Frodo and resilience to the Ring. Though if there was not one assigned, I think Boromir would have tried to take the Ring if Frodo died.

TheGreatElvenWarrior · 12-26-2007, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Nazgûl-king

Who do you think would have become ring-bearer if Frodo had died in Moria? Do you think a backup bearer was assigned by the Council of Elrond to carry the Ring if Frodo dies? I think Sam would have been made backup-bearer for his loyalty to Frodo and resilience to the Ring. Though if there was not one assigned, I think Boromir would have tried to take the Ring if Frodo died.

Well, they would not want Boromir to be the back up, but I think that Sam would probably be the backup but would he be able to leave Frodo behind? (Yes, he did leave him with Shelob when he was presumed to be dead, but keep into account that Samwise was coming back, or planning to anyways)

Lindale · 12-27-2007, 11:35 PM

Yup, most probably it will be Sam, because Aragorn, Gandalf and the others will deem it best, except Boromir, who will use his argument in the Council to use the Ring over again. Maybe the madness of Boromir would manifest itself here. If it does, then the Fellowship will be broken, plus all the dangers of Moria in the background. Even if all seven of the Fellowship are against Boromir alone. Chaos.

Meriadoc1961 · 12-28-2007, 03:25 PM

I think the logical choice would have been for Sam to be the bearer. Boromir would have wanted it, but I do not think he would have tried to take it yet by force.

Merry

Nogrod · 12-28-2007, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Meriadoc1961

I think the logical choice would have been for Sam to be the bearer.

I think there was enough to chew for the council that Frodo... a hobbit that is... should be trusted with something like this important thing. Surely it was mainly the authority of Gandalf that gave Frodo the task in the first place. So making another unknown hobbit a back-up, one even Gandalf didn't know or trust so much at that time? No way.

Boromir I think is out of consideration. Aragorn and Gandalf might have been suggested by some of the council members but they would have declined the offer. Gimli would have been strongly against Legolas taking it at that time but all the elves would have voted no for Gimli...

I don't see a scenario for a back-up bearer. If someone would have been chosen to that part I'd say it would have been Legolas... a millenia old elf with experience and a cool head.

TheGreatElvenWarrior · 12-28-2007, 08:23 PM

Hmmm... I don't really see a backup bearer but of course nobody would have given the ring to Sam, but probably to someone they thought would be of more importance!

12-26-2007, 01:08 PM	#1
Nazgûl-king Wight Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 104	Backup-bearer Who do you think would have become ring-bearer if Frodo had died in Moria? Do you think a backup bearer was assigned by the Council of Elrond to carry the Ring if Frodo dies? I think Sam would have been made backup-bearer for his loyalty to Frodo and resilience to the Ring. Though if there was not one assigned, I think Boromir would have tried to take the Ring if Frodo died.

12-27-2007, 11:35 PM	#3
Lindale Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: midway upon... in a forest dark Posts: 975	Yup, most probably it will be Sam, because Aragorn, Gandalf and the others will deem it best, except Boromir, who will use his argument in the Council to use the Ring over again. Maybe the madness of Boromir would manifest itself here. If it does, then the Fellowship will be broken, plus all the dangers of Moria in the background. Even if all seven of the Fellowship are against Boromir alone. Chaos. __________________ The heart does things for reasons Reason itself cannot comprehend. - Blaise Pascal Legal Madness.

12-28-2007, 03:25 PM	#4
Meriadoc1961 Wight Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 101	I think the logical choice would have been for Sam to be the bearer. Boromir would have wanted it, but I do not think he would have tried to take it yet by force. Merry __________________ "If I yawn again, I shall split at the ears!"

12-28-2007, 08:23 PM	#6
TheGreatElvenWarrior Mighty Quill Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Walking off to look for America Posts: 2,230	Hmmm... I don't really see a backup bearer but of course nobody would have given the ring to Sam, but probably to someone they thought would be of more importance! __________________ The Party Doesn't Start Until You're Dead.