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I am currently researching the topic of instrumental music in Tolkien's works. I find very little satisfactory material; the most various instruments are actually mentioned in The Hobbit, played by the Dwarves, and even there Tolkien writes not much that is specific.
The Elves do play instruments, but aside from a few references to harps and flutes (were there Elvish trumpets too?), I haven't located more. The Hobbits play the toy instruments at the Long-Expected Party; aside from that, I can't recall any other references. Of Men I remember only references to trumpets in Gondor and horns in both Rohan and Gondor (Boromir's horn, more a signal than a musical instrument). Do any of you remember more references, or have you found something obscure, well-hidden in HoME, that I haven't yet discovered? I'd appreciate any help you can give!
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Hi Esty,
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I guess we have seen most of these except the bells with the Dwarves at Bag End. I am however intrigued by the elvish pipes, most likely they were pan-pipes or flutes of some sort, but could they just possibly be bagpipes??!! I'm sorely tempted by - "I'll take the straight road and you take the curved road and I'll get to Valinor before you." ![]() Many apologies, Rumil
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There is an interesting reference in HoMe I to the instruments played by the 'Teleri' (i.e. Vanyar), 'Noldoli' (Noldor), and 'Solosimpi' (Teleri), respectively:
Vanyar - 'congregated harps' Noldoli - 'viols and instruments' Teleri - pipes I cannot recall the exact quote, nor do I have the book at hand, but if you want to take a look, it occurs during the procession of the Elves to the festival in Valimar. For what it's worth, I wrote something on music in Tolkien's Legendarium some time ago, which can be found here. Last edited by Aiwendil; 01-29-2008 at 08:18 AM. |
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I knew I'd seen a thread on this in the dim and distant past-
music thread though I'm not entirely convinced by Saucie's claim of Gandalf's Hammond Organ proficiency! Cheers, Rumil
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Interesting thread! I have maybe one or two more tokens to show.
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I seem to recall some people were entertained by the musical fruit in the movies, but somehow I doubt if Esty would include the movies in her definition of "Tolkien's works".
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Rusty here: the three greatest musicians were ... um... Maglor was it (? the one who went mad & sang by the seashore ever afterwards), and Daeron who played the flute, and likewise Tinfang Gelion (Flautist.) Seems plain that TOlkien favored flutes and vocals.
Have you checked out Aiwendil's essay on music in MIddle Earth? It is the best treatment I've seen yet. Aiwendil's essay
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