The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum


Visit The *EVEN NEWER* Barrow-Downs Photo Page

Go Back   The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum > Middle-Earth Discussions > The Books
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-28-2007, 03:28 PM   #1
sallkid
Animated Skeleton
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 50
sallkid has just left Hobbiton.
Is THIS how you imagined the vampires?


This is Games Workshop's "Terror of Arnor" which has been officially confirmed to represent a vampire.

What i'd like to ask is this:

Is this how you imagined the vampires in tolkien?

(just to verify this is a substantially bigger model than those represnting the human-sized characters)

Last edited by sallkid; 06-28-2007 at 03:34 PM.
sallkid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2007, 03:35 PM   #2
Legate of Amon Lanc
A Voice That Gainsayeth
 
Legate of Amon Lanc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In that far land beyond the Sea
Posts: 7,431
Legate of Amon Lanc is spying on the Black Gate.Legate of Amon Lanc is spying on the Black Gate.Legate of Amon Lanc is spying on the Black Gate.Legate of Amon Lanc is spying on the Black Gate.Legate of Amon Lanc is spying on the Black Gate.Legate of Amon Lanc is spying on the Black Gate.
Quote:
Originally Posted by sallkid
What i'd like to ask is this:

Is this how you imagined the vampires in tolkien?
No, no and again, no.

It is positively clear that this figure resembles more one certain thing: a balrog. Yes, a big, mean, nasty, black, winged Balrog...

*runs for cover*

But seriously, I always imagined the vampires in Tolkien just as giant bats, nothing more (cf. Lúthien's metamorphosis).
__________________
"Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories
Legate of Amon Lanc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2007, 03:57 PM   #3
Sir Kohran
Wight
 
Sir Kohran's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: England, UK
Posts: 178
Sir Kohran has just left Hobbiton.
It looks too similar to a Fellbeast; it lacks individuality. Tolkien was quite vague on the vampires (probably intentionally), but I think he imagined something more unique than this.
__________________
'Dangerous!' cried Gandalf. 'And so am I, very dangerous: more dangerous than anything you will ever meet, unless you are brought alive before the seat of the Dark Lord.'
Sir Kohran is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2007, 04:03 PM   #4
Legate of Amon Lanc
A Voice That Gainsayeth
 
Legate of Amon Lanc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In that far land beyond the Sea
Posts: 7,431
Legate of Amon Lanc is spying on the Black Gate.Legate of Amon Lanc is spying on the Black Gate.Legate of Amon Lanc is spying on the Black Gate.Legate of Amon Lanc is spying on the Black Gate.Legate of Amon Lanc is spying on the Black Gate.Legate of Amon Lanc is spying on the Black Gate.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Kohran
It looks too similar to a Fellbeast; it lacks individuality. Tolkien was quite vague on the vampires (probably intentionally), but I think he imagined something more unique than this.
Fellbeast in the movies, to be precise. It is very similar to it: you know, it evokes in me the thought of a monster from which, in the moment of its death, flies a sign reading "*1000 XP*". In the books, I quite liked the Fell beasts. And imagined them far nicer than these gray-something with big head.

Concerning the vampires, I think you are right about the "unique": they are some sort of enigma, like Beorn for example (when this thread is popular). A-ha! I know now! Gothmog the Lieutenant of Morgul was a vampire! Well, why not?
__________________
"Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories
Legate of Amon Lanc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2007, 04:33 PM   #5
Nogrod
Flame of the Ainulindalë
 
Nogrod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves
Posts: 9,308
Nogrod is wading through the Dead Marshes.Nogrod is wading through the Dead Marshes.Nogrod is wading through the Dead Marshes.Nogrod is wading through the Dead Marshes.Nogrod is wading through the Dead Marshes.Nogrod is wading through the Dead Marshes.
Send a message via MSN to Nogrod
Far from it!

It has no resemblance to any believable vampire whatsoever...

It's kind of a messy get-together of vampires, bats, gargoyles, balrogs or whatever monsters you can think... in a scale that is only unbelievable and clumsy.

Just think of bat-like humans and you're on your way to true vampireship... it's a lot scarier anyway.

Even if I don't exactly applaud the movie of the League of the Extraordinary Gentlemen (or whatever it was in English) the scene where the vampire-woman showed why no one needed to protect her by killing very suddenly the guy who was threatening her was something I liked a lot. It had something like a vampire-feeling in it. Neat and sneaky but at the same time over-aggressive and scary... vampirish in short.

Scary, not the imbecile fantasy-stereotype which always goes for the lowest common denominator.

People would not have feared of vampires through ages around the Western world if they weren't actually terrible - and believable...
__________________
Upon the hearth the fire is red
Beneath the roof there is a bed;
But not yet weary are our feet...
Nogrod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2007, 05:22 PM   #6
Hyarion
Pile O'Bones
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 16
Hyarion has just left Hobbiton.


I pictured them more like the above image, bat-like.
Hyarion is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:37 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.