Fate of the Nazgul? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

SarumanCymraeg · 05-27-2006, 09:21 AM

Hi! I was just wondering what would be the ultimate fate of the Nazgul after the destruction of the One Ring, do you think, or has Tolkien ever stated what it was.

Although it is generally accepted they were destroyed, or diminished, what would then be their fate? The Nine were orgininally kings of Men, so would they have shared the fate of Men (although we don't know what that is) or would simply have been disembodied and powerless as Sauron?

Just a thought

davem · 05-27-2006, 10:58 AM

Make up your own story - its more fun. Don't worry if it doesn't 'fit' with the 'official' version in The Sil or the other stuff 'unpublished'in Tolkien's lifetime - not, that there is an 'official' version. I think the implication is that they were all destroyed when their Rings were. After death if there was anything left of them spiritually they would have gone to Mandos & then beyond the Circles of the World, which is the fate of Men.

Morgul Queen · 06-10-2006, 03:35 AM

When the Nazgul are destroyed there's a line about their voices not being heard again in that age of the world.

Which lasted about 2 years...

...eeeeenteresting.

Raynor · 06-10-2006, 04:41 AM

That line reffers only to the Witch-king, once it was killed by Eowyn

.

Edit: it is worth noting that in the "Ring goes south" chapter, Gandalf says:

Quote:

You cannot destroy Ringwraiths like that, said Gandalf. The power of their master is in them, and they stand or fall by him.

which could imply their dissappearence (either as impotence, either all mortals depart).

yavanna II · 07-06-2006, 04:40 AM

But do they go in the Halls of Mandos--the separate space for men? I mean, they were men, only they were bewitched and perverted by Sauron.

Gil-Galad · 07-19-2006, 01:53 PM

Or their spirits just wander in Limbo.

well they could also be sent to the Void, i have played one scenario where the Nazgul are trying to reform and open the void again. its was interesting for sure

07-21-2006, 10:49 PM

maybe the witchking's spirit survived because he actually died before the one ring was destroyed

Gil-Galad · 07-22-2006, 10:31 AM

Well don't forget the fords too at Rivendell, the Nazgul were swept away there.

05-27-2006, 09:21 AM	#1
SarumanCymraeg Pile O'Bones Join Date: May 2006 Location: Wales Posts: 19	Fate of the Nazgul? Hi! I was just wondering what would be the ultimate fate of the Nazgul after the destruction of the One Ring, do you think, or has Tolkien ever stated what it was. Although it is generally accepted they were destroyed, or diminished, what would then be their fate? The Nine were orgininally kings of Men, so would they have shared the fate of Men (although we don't know what that is) or would simply have been disembodied and powerless as Sauron? Just a thought

05-27-2006, 10:58 AM	#2
davem Illustrious Ulair Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: In the home of lost causes, and forsaken beliefs, and unpopular names,and impossible loyalties Posts: 4,240	Make up your own story - its more fun. Don't worry if it doesn't 'fit' with the 'official' version in The Sil or the other stuff 'unpublished'in Tolkien's lifetime - not, that there is an 'official' version. I think the implication is that they were all destroyed when their Rings were. After death if there was anything left of them spiritually they would have gone to Mandos & then beyond the Circles of the World, which is the fate of Men. __________________ “Everything was an object. If you killed a dwarf you could use it as a weapon – it was no different to other large heavy objects."

06-10-2006, 03:35 AM	#3
Morgul Queen Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dontgonearthe Castle Posts: 414	When the Nazgul are destroyed there's a line about their voices not being heard again in that age of the world. Which lasted about 2 years... ...eeeeenteresting. __________________ Athrabeth is still doing the wave for Boromir the Disco-King Oh...and call me Morgy!

07-19-2006, 01:53 PM	#6
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,733	Or their spirits just wander in Limbo. well they could also be sent to the Void, i have played one scenario where the Nazgul are trying to reform and open the void again. its was interesting for sure __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

07-21-2006, 10:49 PM	#7
whitlight Guest Posts: n/a	fate of the nazgul maybe the witchking's spirit survived because he actually died before the one ring was destroyed

07-06-2006, 04:40 AM	#5
yavanna II Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: in my own little world Posts: 142	But do they go in the Halls of Mandos--the separate space for men? I mean, they were men, only they were bewitched and perverted by Sauron.

07-22-2006, 10:31 AM	#8
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,733	Well don't forget the fords too at Rivendell, the Nazgul were swept away there. __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.