Where did Witch-King's helm go? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

NicktheOrc · 06-21-2002, 02:08 AM

There's a question I need to have answered. Where did Witch-King's helm go? He wore one when he left Minas Morgul, but it wasn't there when he was denied entry to Minas Tirith by Gandalf or in The Battle of The Pelennor Fields. What happeened to it?

Daniel Telcontar · 06-21-2002, 06:35 AM

Where did you get information about his helm? because in the movie it may just be a mistake. And if it is written in the book, then we can't be sure that J.R.R. Tolkien told us the reason.

piosenniel · 06-21-2002, 07:23 AM

In ROTK, 'The Battle of the Pellenor Fields',
the witch king wears his crown

[Q]Then tottering up with her last strength,she(Eowyn) drove her sword between crown and mantle as the great shoulders blowed toward her . . . The crown rolled away with a clang.[/Q]

and also in the scene where he is denied entrance by Gandalf he has his crown.

Can you give a specific reference to the 'helm'?

NicktheOrc · 06-21-2002, 07:29 AM

[img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] "Helm" is the old-fashioned name for a helmet. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

[ June 21, 2002: Message edited by: NicktheOrc ]

Inziladun · 06-21-2002, 07:30 AM

When the Black Captain leaves Minas Morgul he is described as wearing on his head 'a helm like a crown that flickered with a perilous light'. At the Gate of Minas Tirith he wears a 'kingly crown'. I would say they are the same.

06-21-2002, 02:08 AM	#1
NicktheOrc Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Witch-Realm of Angmar, a.k.a. some place in Australia Posts: 40	Where did Witch-King's helm go? There's a question I need to have answered. Where did Witch-King's helm go? He wore one when he left Minas Morgul, but it wasn't there when he was denied entry to Minas Tirith by Gandalf or in The Battle of The Pelennor Fields. What happeened to it? __________________ Hmmm... Spider-Man getting the One Ring would be an interesting crossover...

06-21-2002, 06:35 AM	#2
Daniel Telcontar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 713	Where did you get information about his helm? because in the movie it may just be a mistake. And if it is written in the book, then we can't be sure that J.R.R. Tolkien told us the reason. __________________ Two beer or not two beer, that is the question; by Shakesbeer

06-21-2002, 07:23 AM	#3
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	In ROTK, 'The Battle of the Pellenor Fields', the witch king wears his crown [Q]Then tottering up with her last strength,she(Eowyn) drove her sword between crown and mantle as the great shoulders blowed toward her . . . The crown rolled away with a clang.[/Q] and also in the scene where he is denied entrance by Gandalf he has his crown. Can you give a specific reference to the 'helm'? __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

06-21-2002, 07:29 AM	#4
NicktheOrc Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Witch-Realm of Angmar, a.k.a. some place in Australia Posts: 40	[img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] "Helm" is the old-fashioned name for a helmet. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] [ June 21, 2002: Message edited by: NicktheOrc ] __________________ Hmmm... Spider-Man getting the One Ring would be an interesting crossover...

06-21-2002, 07:30 AM	#5
Inziladun Gruesome Spectre Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Heaven's doorstep Posts: 8,039	When the Black Captain leaves Minas Morgul he is described as wearing on his head 'a helm like a crown that flickered with a perilous light'. At the Gate of Minas Tirith he wears a 'kingly crown'. I would say they are the same. __________________ Music alone proves the existence of God.