Gimli and the Steward's Chair - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Firefoot · 06-02-2004, 06:34 PM

This is something that I found odd when watching RotK for the second time: during the Last Debate section of the movie, Gimli is sitting in the black Steward's chair. It seems rather strange to me that (I believe) everyone else is standing but Gimli is not only sitting but sitting in the Steward's chair. Did anyone else notice this?

Morsul the Dark · 06-02-2004, 06:46 PM

i noticed and i didnt think too much about it
it was merely to help with the size proportions... plus dentor is dead who cares if gimli is sitting in his chair

Son of Númenor · 06-02-2004, 06:50 PM

If this had occurred in the book, it might have been strange to readers, but in a movie where the Steward in question was beaten with a staff & died unceremoniously by lighting himself aflame & wailing as he jumped off the pinnacle of his city, it didn't seem all that shocking.

Morsul the Dark · 06-02-2004, 07:25 PM

i dont think it would have been that strange as i recall they still found merry and pippin in isengard and gimli was angry because he needed his pipeweed fix haha and he merely sat down in one of the chairs and since there are only two chairs and he throne is aragorns obviously the other chair is where he would sit have you learned nothing of the stubborness of dwarves?

The Only Real Estel · 06-02-2004, 08:04 PM

True, but even Gandalf still respected the Steward (though you really had to strain to catch it in the movies), & surely he wouldn't have allowed Gimli to disrespect it by sitting in it. Besides, even though he was in the Houses of Healing, Faramir was techinically the Steward, so it was his chair. It'd be different if the steward had no son & no one knew who the next one would be, but maybe PJ thought it'd be funny to have Gimli sitting in the Steward's chair.
And I'm sure Gimli sitting down wasn't that important; if anyone should be sitting down, it should've been Gandalf, who was fighting all day, & had to take on the Witch King. Gimli fought quite a bit too, but he also had the luxury of sailing around in a boat half the day too...

Firefoot · 06-03-2004, 06:04 AM

I still think it is rather odd. Like Estel said, it was technically Faramir's chair so there was still a steward. Though I must admit I have no respect for the way PJ handled the whole steward thing. Maybe he did just think it would be a good idea.

06-02-2004, 06:34 PM	#1
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Gimli and the Steward's Chair This is something that I found odd when watching RotK for the second time: during the Last Debate section of the movie, Gimli is sitting in the black Steward's chair. It seems rather strange to me that (I believe) everyone else is standing but Gimli is not only sitting but sitting in the Steward's chair. Did anyone else notice this?

06-02-2004, 06:46 PM	#2
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	i noticed and i didnt think too much about it it was merely to help with the size proportions... plus dentor is dead who cares if gimli is sitting in his chair __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

06-02-2004, 06:50 PM	#3
Son of Númenor A Shade of Westernesse Join Date: May 2004 Location: The last wave over Atalantë Posts: 515	If this had occurred in the book, it might have been strange to readers, but in a movie where the Steward in question was beaten with a staff & died unceremoniously by lighting himself aflame & wailing as he jumped off the pinnacle of his city, it didn't seem all that shocking. __________________ "This miserable drizzling afternoon I have been reading up old military lecture-notes again:- and getting bored with them after an hour and a half. I have done some touches to my nonsense fairy language - to its improvement."

06-02-2004, 07:25 PM	#4
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	i dont think it would have been that strange as i recall they still found merry and pippin in isengard and gimli was angry because he needed his pipeweed fix haha and he merely sat down in one of the chairs and since there are only two chairs and he throne is aragorns obviously the other chair is where he would sit have you learned nothing of the stubborness of dwarves? __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

06-02-2004, 08:04 PM	#5
The Only Real Estel Raffish Rapscallion Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Far from the 'Downs, it seems :-( Posts: 2,835	True, but even Gandalf still respected the Steward (though you really had to strain to catch it in the movies), & surely he wouldn't have allowed Gimli to disrespect it by sitting in it. Besides, even though he was in the Houses of Healing, Faramir was techinically the Steward, so it was his chair. It'd be different if the steward had no son & no one knew who the next one would be, but maybe PJ thought it'd be funny to have Gimli sitting in the Steward's chair. And I'm sure Gimli sitting down wasn't that important; if anyone should be sitting down, it should've been Gandalf, who was fighting all day, & had to take on the Witch King. Gimli fought quite a bit too, but he also had the luxury of sailing around in a boat half the day too... Last edited by The Only Real Estel; 06-03-2004 at 08:04 PM.

06-03-2004, 06:04 AM	#6
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	I still think it is rather odd. Like Estel said, it was technically Faramir's chair so there was still a steward. Though I must admit I have no respect for the way PJ handled the whole steward thing. Maybe he did just think it would be a good idea.