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Potatothan · 05-03-2004, 04:13 PM

When they named the Hobbits and such, they referred to them as: Frodo, son of Drogo, Araogorn, son of Arathorn, gimli son of Gloín and stuff like that. But that is not the case with the elves and orcs. It's true that there are not many fameous orcs in lord of the rings, so that might explain that part, but why is legolas referred to as: Legolas of the woodland realm and not legolas son of Thrandhuil?

Did it had something to do with the age of elves? I doubt it since they found famely bonds rather important.

~Potatothan

Lord of Angmar · 05-03-2004, 04:21 PM

I do not think there is any specific reason for it. Just as Frodo is sometimes called Frodo son of Drogo and sometimes called Frodo Baggins, I am sure Legolas is sometimes referred to as Legolas son of Thranduil or Elrond as Elrond son of Earendil (though that may be a bit of a touchy subject

).

symestreem · 05-03-2004, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord of Angmar

Just as Frodo is sometimes called Frodo son of Drogo and sometimes called Frodo Baggins, I am sure Legolas is sometimes referred to as Legolas son of Thranduil or Elrond as Elrond son of Earendil (though that may be a bit of a touchy subject

).

Why is that a touchy subject? I remember Aragorn talking about Bilbo 'having the cheek to write verses about Earendil in the house of Elrond', but I never understood it.

Lord of Angmar · 05-03-2004, 06:58 PM

Elrond and his brother, Elros, were kidnapped by Maedhros and Maglor while their father Earendil was sailing in Vingilot attempting to reach the Undying Lands. Thus, Elrond was not raised by his father but by two of the Sons of Feanor, who slew many of his people, the exiles of Doriath and Gondolin.

Legolas · 05-03-2004, 10:06 PM

In the case of Legolas, his father's name is used a couple of times. The main reason we don't see it more is that he isn't introduced or asked his identity nearly as much as Frodo.

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'Welcome son of Thranduil! Too seldom do my kindred journey hither from the North.'

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He was named Elf-friend because of the great love that grew between him and Legolas, son of King Thranduil, and because of his reverence for the Lady Galadriel.

Lhunardawen · 05-04-2004, 12:25 AM

I would suppose it has something to do with the fact that practically nobody from the Third Age has been around when the parents of the Elves have been in Middle-Earth. For example, none would call Galadriel the daughter of Finarfin because, after all, are they aware that he is her father?

05-03-2004, 04:13 PM	#1
Potatothan Haunting Spirit Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Traveling from one warm bed to another Posts: 52	Race parents When they named the Hobbits and such, they referred to them as: Frodo, son of Drogo, Araogorn, son of Arathorn, gimli son of Gloín and stuff like that. But that is not the case with the elves and orcs. It's true that there are not many fameous orcs in lord of the rings, so that might explain that part, but why is legolas referred to as: Legolas of the woodland realm and not legolas son of Thrandhuil? Did it had something to do with the age of elves? I doubt it since they found famely bonds rather important. ~Potatothan __________________ Are we humans or are we called humans?

05-03-2004, 04:21 PM	#2
Lord of Angmar Tyrannus Incorporalis Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: the North Posts: 833	I do not think there is any specific reason for it. Just as Frodo is sometimes called Frodo son of Drogo and sometimes called Frodo Baggins, I am sure Legolas is sometimes referred to as Legolas son of Thranduil or Elrond as Elrond son of Earendil (though that may be a bit of a touchy subject ). __________________ ...where the instrument of intelligence is added to brute power and evil will, mankind is powerless in its own defence.

05-03-2004, 06:58 PM	#4
Lord of Angmar Tyrannus Incorporalis Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: the North Posts: 833	Elrond and his brother, Elros, were kidnapped by Maedhros and Maglor while their father Earendil was sailing in Vingilot attempting to reach the Undying Lands. Thus, Elrond was not raised by his father but by two of the Sons of Feanor, who slew many of his people, the exiles of Doriath and Gondolin. __________________ ...where the instrument of intelligence is added to brute power and evil will, mankind is powerless in its own defence.

05-04-2004, 12:25 AM	#6
Lhunardawen Hauntress of the Havens Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IN it, but not OF it Posts: 2,538	I would suppose it has something to do with the fact that practically nobody from the Third Age has been around when the parents of the Elves have been in Middle-Earth. For example, none would call Galadriel the daughter of Finarfin because, after all, are they aware that he is her father?