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Old 09-24-2005, 05:29 PM   #1
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Tolkien Are elves stupid ?

or maybe just careless?

Why did the elves not find wayes to defeat Glaurung?

Glaurung first apears two hundred years before the Dagor Bragollach, but is driven off by Fingon and thoug the elves at this occasion has been pree warned, they were unable, to contrive means to deal with beasts of his sort.
Again in the Nirnaeth Arnoediad, he slayed many men and elves before the dwaves drove him off the battlefield. This showed that comprehensive body-armour was able to withstand the heat and flame of Glaurung.

Why did the elves not prepare for Glaurung after there first encounter? were they over confident or did they just don't think about it. (this is very hard to belive)

Why did the elves not use body-armour of the sort the dwarves used? foolish pride or . . .

Please give me your thoughts on this subject.
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Old 09-24-2005, 05:36 PM   #2
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Dwarves are more resistant to fire than elves, if I remember correctly.

I do not think the elves were stupid. I do not think that they would've given much thought to their first time encounter with Glaurung. Just another one of Morgoth's wierdos, I can imagine Fingon saying, not realizing the potential of dragons from a military point-of-view.

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Old 09-24-2005, 05:44 PM   #3
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Dwarves are more resistant to fire than elves, if I remember correctly..
yes i to remember that, but was there not a time were Turin alone withstood Glaurung and was it not a dwarven armour witch made this posibel.

(I belive so, but not 100 % sure)
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Old 09-24-2005, 11:55 PM   #4
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Actually, Turin deafeated Glaurung by an indirect attack. He came up underneath him when Glaurung was trying to cross a ravine. Turin drove his sword, Gurthang( ), into Glaurung's belly. So I don't think his armor had anything to do with his fight with Glaurung. (Unless they fought at another time that I am unaware of.)
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Old 09-25-2005, 05:38 AM   #5
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Yeah i was thinking of the fall of Nargothrond.

And it was a dwarf mask (Just been checking)
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And what could elves have done to the dragon? Try to invade Angband and say: "Hey, we came to kill the dragon, no harm to you others!"? And how could they know how to protect themselves from the dragon? They maybe just saw this simple: it as another Morgoth's dangerous monster should be fought against as any another Morgoth's monster, not as a special threat. Dangerous maybe - like balrogs - but not so special.
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