Admin Thread - WW LXXXVIII: Trouble in the Misty Mountains - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Shastanis Althreduin · 10-06-2011, 01:49 AM

Hello and welcome to the (incredibly long overdue, shut up I know) next WW game - Trouble in the Misty Mountains!

This is a relatively simple game that will grow slightly more complex if I have enough people. Should the number of players be less than 15, it will be a simple 3-wolf game, with a seer/ranger/hunter. Should I get more than 15, however, I'll be adding in a werebear that becomes a regular wolf if attacked (thoughts on this would be appreciated).

Signups below.

Legate
Sally
Inzil
Greenie
Kath
Kitanna
Bom
Pitch
Nerwen
G55
The Elf-Warrior
Boro
Azura
Laeko_Rundalis

For DL, I'm looking at my schedule, and really, the only time I can consistently be at my computer, every day, is midnight CST as per usual. :/ Sorry, Europeans.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 10-06-2011, 04:42 AM

I don't know how my time/participation will be (depending on when we are planning to start), but then again, I haven't played WW for ages, so whatever! I think I'll play.

As for the setting, I am more than happy with a simple game, but the werebear-thing, if it comes to be, sounds also rather brilliant (and in any case, while it's a "non-basic" thing, it still isn't anything groundbreaking). I think there isn't any rule-issue or imbalance-issue if I think about the werebear (apart from "woe be us if the WWs actually succeed in turning him!). Maybe just this question - will turning the Werebear mean that the WWs will get an extra kill per Night? Or will it mean that the Werebear would simply become a Wolf, and thus, the number of kills per Night will actually drop at the point when he is turned? Or maybe the number of kills will depend on the number of WWs - say, we have 3 WWs in the beginning, they have one kill, but once they become four (by turning the WB), they get an extra kill, but once one of them gets lynched, they are back at one kill? I am also currently trying to figure out whether it might not be interesting, in such a case, that the Werebear would be actually the figure granting the extra kill - i.e. the kill will not depending on the number of WWs, but on the presence of the WB. Once the WWs lose him, there will be one kill less, but if there is e.g. just one Wolf and one Wolfbear, they still get two kills. Maybe that idea brings in too much inbalance, however (or more like, confusion). But just as food for thought...

Also, once the Bear has been turned a Wolf, if all the "natural" WWs die but the Wolf-Bear survives, will it still count as Wolf victory? (I'm assuming yes, but just for the sake of clarity I am asking this now...)

That is, if we really get to have a bear in the end anyway...

satansaloser2005 · 10-06-2011, 05:45 AM

It's about bloody time....sir.

You KNOW I'm in. When is the tentative DL?

Inziladun · 10-06-2011, 08:21 AM

Sign me up, naturally.

A Little Green · 10-06-2011, 11:12 AM

Count me in, son.

Kath · 10-06-2011, 12:13 PM

Assuming the DL is doable for me I'm going to say I'm in. It's been waaaay too long!

satansaloser2005 · 10-10-2011, 05:45 PM

We need more people. I'm all over this.

*scampers to twist some arms*

Inziladun · 10-11-2011, 02:16 PM

Forget arm-twisting, just threaten to break thumbs.

Nerwen · 10-11-2011, 05:42 PM

Ah! Just what I need to help me relax after a "working holiday"! (Why yes, that is a contradiction in terms!)

Shastanis Althreduin · 10-12-2011, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Ah! Just what I need to help me relax after a "working holiday"! (Why yes, that is a contradiction in terms!)

Hooray, more people!

Galadriel55 · 10-14-2011, 01:59 PM

I am back from vacation, and much busier than I thought I'd be. You can count on me joining if you need an extra person, though. Never too busy to stop a WW game from happening.

Boromir88 · 10-17-2011, 08:15 AM

I'm actually going to have to back out now and please no yelling (and no twisting me arms, sally), k?

If we could have gotten started then I'd be able to stay around, but before the weekend boss contacted me with urgent job. The dude who was originally responsible to do this was canned and I'm temporarily filling in for his duties until they get someone else. It's somewhat good because it's a promotion and pay bump, but it also leaves me stuck doing databases and research all week. I'm going to be dreaming in spreadsheet format for weeks.

Sorry ladies and gents.

Bom Tombadillo · 10-17-2011, 06:46 PM

Awww.

How's the arm-twisting going? We have . . . I count 11 people if all goes perfectly?

Galadriel55 · 10-17-2011, 06:57 PM

Payrise is more important than even WW

But hey, unless there's a sudden wave of interest (which I highly doubt) we might not start until after a week...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bom Tombadillo

I count 11 people if all goes perfectly?

10, since Boro isn't playing, at least now.

Shastanis Althreduin · 10-18-2011, 12:01 AM

That sucks, Boro.

However, are we really sure we want to start with ten players? I've been holding off on purpose, hoping we would get more signups, but... the last ten-player game I hosted lasted two days.

Pitchwife · 10-18-2011, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

That sucks, Boro.

However, are we really sure we want to start with ten players? I've been holding off on purpose, hoping we would get more signups, but... the last ten-player game I hosted lasted two days.

Ten is indeed a little meagre, I'd say; twelve would be a reasonable minimum IMO (without the Werebear-cum-Cursed, but by all means keep the idea on the back burner for another game!). What is everybody doing these days?

(Kit, DL is at the end of Shasta's first post.)

Kitanna · 10-18-2011, 05:23 AM

Has a DL been decided? Because if it has I've totally missed it.

Galadriel55 · 10-29-2011, 07:45 PM

So is N1 starting on the night between now and tomorrow, or tomorrow and Monday? Midnight confuses me.

And also - is there a werebear?

Bom Tombadillo · 10-29-2011, 08:30 PM

I presume no werebear based on the number of players.

I'm still role-less, incidentally.

Galadriel55 · 10-29-2011, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bom Tombadillo

I'm still role-less, incidentally.

I am too.

Werebear would have been fun...

Pitchwife · 10-30-2011, 02:36 PM

I am three.

(And yes it would, but Werebear + small village = massacre, so I guess not.)

Azura · 10-30-2011, 05:02 PM

I would like to join........

10-06-2011, 01:49 AM	#1
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	Admin Thread - WW LXXXVIII: Trouble in the Misty Mountains Hello and welcome to the (incredibly long overdue, shut up I know) next WW game - Trouble in the Misty Mountains! This is a relatively simple game that will grow slightly more complex if I have enough people. Should the number of players be less than 15, it will be a simple 3-wolf game, with a seer/ranger/hunter. Should I get more than 15, however, I'll be adding in a werebear that becomes a regular wolf if attacked (thoughts on this would be appreciated). Signups below. Legate Sally Inzil Greenie Kath Kitanna Bom Pitch Nerwen G55 The Elf-Warrior Boro Azura Laeko_Rundalis For DL, I'm looking at my schedule, and really, the only time I can consistently be at my computer, every day, is midnight CST as per usual. :/ Sorry, Europeans. __________________ Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV Last edited by Shastanis Althreduin; 11-01-2011 at 01:51 AM.

10-06-2011, 04:42 AM	#2
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	I don't know how my time/participation will be (depending on when we are planning to start), but then again, I haven't played WW for ages, so whatever! I think I'll play. As for the setting, I am more than happy with a simple game, but the werebear-thing, if it comes to be, sounds also rather brilliant (and in any case, while it's a "non-basic" thing, it still isn't anything groundbreaking). I think there isn't any rule-issue or imbalance-issue if I think about the werebear (apart from "woe be us if the WWs actually succeed in turning him!). Maybe just this question - will turning the Werebear mean that the WWs will get an extra kill per Night? Or will it mean that the Werebear would simply become a Wolf, and thus, the number of kills per Night will actually drop at the point when he is turned? Or maybe the number of kills will depend on the number of WWs - say, we have 3 WWs in the beginning, they have one kill, but once they become four (by turning the WB), they get an extra kill, but once one of them gets lynched, they are back at one kill? I am also currently trying to figure out whether it might not be interesting, in such a case, that the Werebear would be actually the figure granting the extra kill - i.e. the kill will not depending on the number of WWs, but on the presence of the WB. Once the WWs lose him, there will be one kill less, but if there is e.g. just one Wolf and one Wolfbear, they still get two kills. Maybe that idea brings in too much inbalance, however (or more like, confusion). But just as food for thought... Also, once the Bear has been turned a Wolf, if all the "natural" WWs die but the Wolf-Bear survives, will it still count as Wolf victory? (I'm assuming yes, but just for the sake of clarity I am asking this now...) That is, if we really get to have a bear in the end anyway... __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

10-06-2011, 05:45 AM	#3
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	It's about bloody time....sir. You KNOW I'm in. When is the tentative DL? __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

10-06-2011, 08:21 AM	#4
Inziladun Gruesome Spectre Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Heaven's doorstep Posts: 8,035	Sign me up, naturally. __________________ Music alone proves the existence of God.

10-06-2011, 11:12 AM	#5
A Little Green Leaf-clad Lady Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,571	Count me in, son. __________________ "But some stories, small, simple ones about setting out on adventures or people doing wonders, tales of miracles and monsters, have outlasted all the people who told them, and some of them have outlasted the lands in which they were created."

10-06-2011, 12:13 PM	#6
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	Assuming the DL is doable for me I'm going to say I'm in. It's been waaaay too long! __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

10-10-2011, 05:45 PM	#7
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	We need more people. I'm all over this. scampers to twist some arms __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

10-11-2011, 02:16 PM	#8
Inziladun Gruesome Spectre Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Heaven's doorstep Posts: 8,035	Forget arm-twisting, just threaten to break thumbs. __________________ Music alone proves the existence of God.

10-11-2011, 05:42 PM	#9
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Ah! Just what I need to help me relax after a "working holiday"! (Why yes, that is a contradiction in terms!) __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

10-14-2011, 01:59 PM	#11
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,323	I'm.... back? I am back from vacation, and much busier than I thought I'd be. You can count on me joining if you need an extra person, though. Never too busy to stop a WW game from happening. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

10-17-2011, 08:15 AM	#12
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,507	I'm actually going to have to back out now and please no yelling (and no twisting me arms, sally), k? If we could have gotten started then I'd be able to stay around, but before the weekend boss contacted me with urgent job. The dude who was originally responsible to do this was canned and I'm temporarily filling in for his duties until they get someone else. It's somewhat good because it's a promotion and pay bump, but it also leaves me stuck doing databases and research all week. I'm going to be dreaming in spreadsheet format for weeks. Sorry ladies and gents. __________________ Fenris Penguin

10-17-2011, 06:46 PM	#13
Bom Tombadillo Wight Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Behind you . . . . BOO! Posts: 222	Awww. How's the arm-twisting going? We have . . . I count 11 people if all goes perfectly? __________________ Every human should have a cat or two in their care, to teach them the meaning of the word, and to correct them. Phenris Dorph

10-18-2011, 12:01 AM	#15
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	That sucks, Boro. However, are we really sure we want to start with ten players? I've been holding off on purpose, hoping we would get more signups, but... the last ten-player game I hosted lasted two days. __________________ Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV

10-18-2011, 05:23 AM	#17
Kitanna Child of the West Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Watching President Fillmore ride a unicorn Posts: 2,132	Has a DL been decided? Because if it has I've totally missed it. __________________ "Let us live so that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry." - Mark Twain

10-29-2011, 07:45 PM	#18
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,323	So is N1 starting on the night between now and tomorrow, or tomorrow and Monday? Midnight confuses me. And also - is there a werebear? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera Last edited by Galadriel55; 10-29-2011 at 08:11 PM.

10-29-2011, 08:30 PM	#19
Bom Tombadillo Wight Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Behind you . . . . BOO! Posts: 222	I presume no werebear based on the number of players. I'm still role-less, incidentally. __________________ Every human should have a cat or two in their care, to teach them the meaning of the word, and to correct them. Phenris Dorph

10-30-2011, 02:36 PM	#21
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	I am three. (And yes it would, but Werebear + small village = massacre, so I guess not.) __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

10-30-2011, 05:02 PM	#22
Azura Newly Deceased Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 3	I would like to join........