Talking Orks ? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Aramacil · 10-08-2002, 04:07 AM

I wonder if in TTT (the scene when the Orks have Merry and Pippin hostage on the field of Rohan) the orks actually talk to each other? in their own language?

HerenIstarion · 10-08-2002, 05:02 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>these creatures, being filled with malice, hating even their own kind, quickly developed as many barbarous dialects as there were groups or settlements of their race, so that their Orkish speech was of little use to them in intercourse between different tribes<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> LotR Appendices. Appendix F. Therefore in the movie they will talk english

Aramacil · 10-08-2002, 07:18 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>these creatures, being filled with malice, hating even their own kind, quickly developed as many barbarous dialects as there were groups or settlements of their race, so that their Orkish speech was of little use to them in intercourse between different tribes<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Yes, this is about comunication between different tribes, but I asume the orks from the scene are from the same tribe

Diamond18 · 10-08-2002, 09:12 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> To Pippin's surprise he found that much of the talk was intelligible; many of the Orcs were using ordinary language. Apparently the members of two or three quite different tribes were present, and they could not understand one another's orc-speech. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>The Two Towers, Book 3, Chapter 3 "The Uruk-hai". Speaks for itself.

Eruialiwen · 10-09-2002, 09:22 PM

Ah, I was about to post that, Diamond18 I just read that chapter yesterday (I know, I'm slow...LOL *reads furiously) The Orks will probably be from the same tribe, the Isengarders, so people won't be confused. I know I was rather confused in that part of the book!

Aramacil · 10-16-2002, 07:30 AM

But what about: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>'Don't draw attention to yourself, or I may forget my orders. Curse the Isengarders! Uglúk u bagronk sha pushdug Saruman-glob búbhosh skai'<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> This is said in the book and <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Many loud yells in orc-speech answered him, and the ringing clash of weapons being drawn<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>but, I will agree with you, this is a very small portion of the book, so the talking orks are probably not in the movie, or maybe just vaguely in the background.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 10-19-2002, 06:27 AM

I didn't think much of Lurtz's cries of "Find the Halfling!" in FotR so I'm hoping the Orcs sound better in TTT. When he snarled "Saruman!" it sounded cool but his voice at the end was off. Whatever happens I'm sure Grishnakh will have an awesome voice.

10-08-2002, 04:07 AM	#1
Aramacil Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 131	Talking Orks ? I wonder if in TTT (the scene when the Orks have Merry and Pippin hostage on the field of Rohan) the orks actually talk to each other? in their own language? __________________ "I will take the Ring," he said, "though I do not know the way."

10-08-2002, 05:02 AM	#2
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>these creatures, being filled with malice, hating even their own kind, quickly developed as many barbarous dialects as there were groups or settlements of their race, so that their Orkish speech was of little use to them in intercourse between different tribes<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>LotR Appendices. Appendix F. <P>Therefore in the movie they will talk english __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

10-08-2002, 07:18 AM	#3
Aramacil Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 131	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>these creatures, being filled with malice, hating even their own kind, quickly developed as many barbarous dialects as there were groups or settlements of their race, so that their Orkish speech was of little use to them in intercourse between different tribes<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Yes, this is about comunication between different tribes, but I asume the orks from the scene are from the same tribe __________________ "I will take the Ring," he said, "though I do not know the way."

10-08-2002, 09:12 AM	#4
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> To Pippin's surprise he found that much of the talk was intelligible; many of the Orcs were using ordinary language. Apparently the members of two or three quite different tribes were present, and they could not understand one another's orc-speech. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>The Two Towers, Book 3, Chapter 3 "The Uruk-hai". Speaks for itself. __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

10-09-2002, 09:22 PM	#5
Eruialiwen Haunting Spirit Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Mirkwood, Virginia Posts: 71	Ah, I was about to post that, Diamond18 I just read that chapter yesterday (I know, I'm slow...LOL *reads furiously) The Orks will probably be from the same tribe, the Isengarders, so people won't be confused. I know I was rather confused in that part of the book! __________________ ~'%From the mouths of the Sea the South Wind flies, from the sandhills and the stones; The wailing of the gulls it bears, and at the gate it moans.%'~

10-16-2002, 07:30 AM	#6
Aramacil Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 131	But what about:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>'Don't draw attention to yourself, or I may forget my orders. Curse the Isengarders! Uglúk u bagronk sha pushdug Saruman-glob búbhosh skai'<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>This is said in the book and<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Many loud yells in orc-speech answered him, and the ringing clash of weapons being drawn<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>but, I will agree with you, this is a very small portion of the book, so the talking orks are probably not in the movie, or maybe just vaguely in the background. __________________ "I will take the Ring," he said, "though I do not know the way."

10-19-2002, 06:27 AM	#7
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	I didn't think much of Lurtz's cries of "Find the Halfling!" in FotR so I'm hoping the Orcs sound better in TTT.<BR>When he snarled "Saruman!" it sounded cool but his voice at the end was off.<BR>Whatever happens I'm sure Grishnakh will have an awesome voice. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond