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rudeboy · 04-07-2003, 09:27 AM

I know that because the 3 elven rings have not been idle since the fall of sauron, so if sauron regained the one the bearers minds and works would be laid bear to him even if they hid him, but how would he then be able to rule middle earth, surley men and the other elves would have resisted?

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 04-07-2003, 10:37 AM

It basically comes down to the fact that Sauron was far more powerful than all the Elves and Men.

Meela · 04-07-2003, 12:15 PM

Wouldnt there have been a small uprising of the more powerful elves? i mean, they did the last time...

Balin999 · 04-07-2003, 02:00 PM

There remained very few elves in Middle-Earth east of the sea at the end of the Third Age.
And Sauron had a much bigger army than all the captains of the west together, so if he had gained the wrong ring, he could have easily ruled the lesser rings and triumph over the world rather quickly, I think. Resistance wouldn't have lasted long.

Voralphion · 04-07-2003, 05:45 PM

The forces of the west would have been powerless to defeat Sauron if he regained the one ring. Remember he pretty much defeated them without the ring and if he had regained it he would've been much more powerful. At the battle in front of the black gate, the army led by Aragorn was almost all killed by a much more numerous force, only the destroying of the one ring made his forces flee which gave the Aragorn and co. the upper hand. If he regained the one ring, Sauron would quickly have defeated Gondor the moved on to Rohan and any other pockets of resistance until he had conquered all of middle earth. The elves would've abandoned middle earth and gone west so they wouldn't give much resistance.

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GaladrieloftheOlden · 04-07-2003, 05:52 PM

It wasn't only the sheer force- don't forget the Ring itself. It would give both Sauron and all the Nazgul an extreme power of fear. It would probably be something like the scene in the beginning of FotR when Sauron is just flinging everyone aside with his mace, just much, much, worse. I think. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

04-07-2003, 09:27 AM	#1
rudeboy Animated Skeleton Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Flitwick, Beds Posts: 47	Can someone explain? I know that because the 3 elven rings have not been idle since the fall of sauron, so if sauron regained the one the bearers minds and works would be laid bear to him even if they hid him, but how would he then be able to rule middle earth, surley men and the other elves would have resisted?

04-07-2003, 10:37 AM	#2
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	It basically comes down to the fact that Sauron was far more powerful than all the Elves and Men. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

04-07-2003, 12:15 PM	#3
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	Wouldnt there have been a small uprising of the more powerful elves? i mean, they did the last time... __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

04-07-2003, 02:00 PM	#4
Balin999 Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2000 Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon Posts: 493	There remained very few elves in Middle-Earth east of the sea at the end of the Third Age. And Sauron had a much bigger army than all the captains of the west together, so if he had gained the wrong ring, he could have easily ruled the lesser rings and triumph over the world rather quickly, I think. Resistance wouldn't have lasted long. __________________ ...Nichts ist gelber als Gelb selber... ...The opposite of courage in our society is not cowardice, but conformity... ...Everything is possible, except to ski through a revolving door...

04-07-2003, 05:45 PM	#5
Voralphion Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sharkey's End Posts: 267	The forces of the west would have been powerless to defeat Sauron if he regained the one ring. Remember he pretty much defeated them without the ring and if he had regained it he would've been much more powerful. At the battle in front of the black gate, the army led by Aragorn was almost all killed by a much more numerous force, only the destroying of the one ring made his forces flee which gave the Aragorn and co. the upper hand. If he regained the one ring, Sauron would quickly have defeated Gondor the moved on to Rohan and any other pockets of resistance until he had conquered all of middle earth. The elves would've abandoned middle earth and gone west so they wouldn't give much resistance. [ April 07, 2003: Message edited by: Voralphion ] __________________ His sword was long his lance was keen His shining helm afar was seen The countless stars of heavens field Were mirrored in his silver shield

04-07-2003, 05:52 PM	#6
GaladrieloftheOlden Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Massachusetts - digging up a bottomless hole, searching for something that's not there... Posts: 1,514	It wasn't only the sheer force- don't forget the Ring itself. It would give both Sauron and all the Nazgul an extreme power of fear. It would probably be something like the scene in the beginning of FotR when Sauron is just flinging everyone aside with his mace, just much, much, worse. I think. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] __________________ "Glue... very powerful stuff."