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Wight
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Just who first thought of weapons?
This is just my first topic in the site, and I don't know whether there had been any other threads like this one... but I beg the question: Just who first thought of weapons of war?
In the creation of Arda, the Valar took physical raiments to cloth their glory. Melkor, who had risen against them, took the form of a terrible giant to destroy their works: Quote:
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Hungry Ghoul
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The Noldor were safe and in peace in Aman, and didn't really need swords, but Melkor lied them into it.
Those who stayed behind in Middle-earth, however, had to deal with Melkor's left-behind evil creatures. Certainly the peoples of Middle-earth were inventive enough to create weapons of war on their own. Ancient cultures on earth didn't have anyone to instruct them at least ![]() |
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Ubiquitous Urulóki
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I would think that, based on knowledge and experience, it wouldn't be very hard for the peoples of Arda to figure out weapon-smithing, but the question is, as you stated, who was first? Well, in my opinion, Aule and Melkor spread the locked up weapons around, Melkor to incite war and Aule to quell it. It stands to reason that weapons may not have existed among the elves and dwarves until they had need of them, when the threat of Morgoth was upon them. Aule gave the wisdom of crafting, but they might not have used it until Morgoth first captured and twisted elves into orcs, arming them with his dark weapons in the fortress of Angband. Perhaps then the good peoples of Arda became proficient in fighting and the making of weapons.
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Wight
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Hmm, but I believe that in the unfortunate incident of kinslaying, the Teleri were also armed, but it was said mostly with slender bows. Now, if the Teleri live at Valinor and dwell near the sea, why should they need bows and arrows? Not for fishing, I belief?
![]() But jokes aside, it really seemed somewhat far-fetched that sentient races in ME should not have invented any weapons at the very first. Before the appearance of Orome to the Elves, Melkor had already kidnapped some of them in the guise of a dark rider, presumably for his equally dark genetic experiments. ![]() So, I guess Melkor is really right in saying that the Valar kept the Elves in Valinor so that they can't be rulers of the entire world, huh? ![]() |
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And at the end of HoME, X, part 3, II, Of the Silmarils and the Unrest of the Noldor there is a commentary (I omitted some of the parenthetical info)-
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