cloak question(thread?needle?get over here!) - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

cheeto · 03-27-2002, 03:45 PM

I'm thinking about making a cloak,I've made them and other things for younger relitives,but I've never put a hood on them,I was wondering if anyone could show picks or explain any ideas on how to add one without it looking too obviosely like it was sewed on seperatly(does that make sense?)and would a drawstring look tacky?(it's looked fine with the others,but I like hearing other ideas)if you have a desighn with sleeves(I've seen them before,very cool)post it up

Aralaithiel · 03-27-2002, 03:49 PM

Try this pattern. It's fairly simple to make. http://home.clara.net/arianrhod/Alde...f/Cloak02.html

Elven-Maiden · 03-27-2002, 07:58 PM

looks cool! I'm gonna try it too! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Nuranar · 03-28-2002, 02:14 PM

That pattern looks great! If I ever finish all my other projects, I'd like to try it some day...

Just one thing: The pattern suggested crushed velvet or cotton/polycotton. I wear a cape for living history and I wouldn't dream of not having one made of wool. It is heavy, but it's far warmer than cotton. Mine is also lined in flannel. In Texas is doesn't get super cold, and my cape is none too warm! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Just a thought if you wanted to use your cloak as an outerwear garment. Have fun! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

Starbreeze · 03-28-2002, 03:36 PM

OOOOO! I gotta have a go @ that!

VanimaEdhel · 03-28-2002, 05:02 PM

Knowing me, if I WERE to make a cloak, then I would wing it. I'd be like, "Oh, this looks good cut like THIS...OH! And this should be shaped like THIS...and you sew it like...THIS!" And, it actually wouldn't turn out that bad and would probably be fairly true to what the hobbit-cloaks would look like. Elf cloaks, those would be perfect, but...

My mom DID make a really good hooded cloak when I was like eight and I was Little Red Riding Hood...it looked exactly like the ones in FotR actually. She used a pattern from...hmmm...which one of those books? McCall's maybe...if you want a pattern you can take HOME, then go to any sewing store with patterns, they'll have them!

Raefindel · 03-30-2002, 08:23 PM

I made my own cloak and I have two thoughts on how you can make it hooded.

1) Make it reversible or lined(simple to do even if the pattern doesn't call for it) and sew the hood BETWEEN the two layers.

2) Put it on with buttons so it can be removed. This way both the cloak collar and the bottom edge of the hood will be finished.

Well, now that I'v thought about it I've come up with a third, but describing it would be difficult.

3) Put a plain collar on the cloak, just a long piece of straight fabric folded over both the inside and outside and sew the hood under that. (be careful not to sew it on the wrong side.)

Hope that was understandable. I know it can be tough trying to make sense of something with no pictures. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Raefindel · 03-30-2002, 08:53 PM

Cheeto, I'm assuming you're female here, after I made my cloak I made a purse/ bag to match from the scraps. Be glad to describe that if you're interested.

cheeto · 03-31-2002, 02:03 PM

go ahead and post the steps for the bag Raefindel,I probly won't get started for a long time,(just got back from a trip and I'm broke)

Niere-Teleliniel · 03-31-2002, 02:11 PM

I agree with Nuranar: make it WARM. i live in Pennsylvania, and when I went running thru the woods with my friends (like the idiots we are [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] ) I was COLD cause my cloak was only 1 layer of cotton (dumb me, not to much elven-sense, I guess) Also, to give it a snappy finish, buy or devise some kind of brooch.

[ March 31, 2002: Message edited by: Niere-Teleliniel ]

Raefindel · 04-05-2002, 03:24 PM

Well, Let's see... I cut two circles, one of each fabric, the outside and the lining ( I lined my cloak) each circle was about 15 inches. I think I traced a large plate. Put WRONG sides of fabric together and sew around the edge leaving enough room to put your hand in and turn it right-side-out. Sew up the hole.Iron flat(very important).

Sew a finishing stitch as close to the edge of the fabric as you can. sew two more times around the circle- one seam one inch from the edge and one a half inch further in. Cut a small hole (like a button hole) between these two (like a rod-pocket on curtains) and run a cord through it with a saftey pin. Pull the cord tight... ta dah!

Let me know if this isn't understandable. I can see if I can re-write it to make more sense. OK?

Raefindel · 04-07-2002, 05:40 PM

Just a thought to add to what Nuranar and Niere-Teleliniel said about fabric. I lined mine wtih satin and found this to be a BIG mistake. It is hot in the summer and cold in the winter. I wish I had lined it with cotton.
[img]smilies/mad.gif[/img]

Joy · 06-21-2002, 11:45 PM

I am using Baroque Satin as my lining, but I am using crushed velvet for the cloak, but down here in Ga, it doesn't get too cold, well most of the time....

[ June 22, 2002: Message edited by: Joy ]

Yerniel Vénea · 06-21-2002, 11:53 PM

I have a pattern from McCall's that has one cloak. the pattern # is P438. It is a simple one w/ a hood but it is only one layered. It is long too, down to the ankles or so. I have not made it but will try it someday. A friend of my recently bought one from Simplicity and it is a pattern w/ 3 types of cloaks: a guy's cloak, a long woman's, and another that I cannot think of right now. I just found one on-line and the # is 9452 of Simplicity (not the one my friend has). I will try and find out what the # is for the cool pattern she has for the cloak, ok? If all else fails, find out pattern brand names and look at their sites. www.simplicity.com and there's others but I can't think of 'em!

Nimrodel · 06-21-2002, 11:56 PM

Lady Rae is right, they are easy to line. Just do everything twice.

Joy · 06-22-2002, 12:00 AM

Yerniel, I will be using Mccall's pattern #9410 for my cloak, but I am looking to make a cloak for the guys that are in our group, so I might take a look at that one that you posted.

Also, I am making the cloak claps also.

merlilot · 06-22-2002, 11:54 AM

Wow, I thought I was th only wierdo who wanted a cloak. And to think all the times I safety pinned a blanket to my shoulders...No really, I wanna make one, but have a) no money and b) no time, so it looks like I'm screwed for that one.

Raefindel · 06-22-2002, 12:44 PM

Yes, Sewing is expensive and time consuming. I have 2 cloaks I made for myself and I made each of my daughers a reversable cloak. It was fun to take them to the fabric store and let them each choose fabric. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Joy · 06-22-2002, 12:59 PM

Mae govannan Merlilot. Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo. (A star shines on the hour of our meeting.)

Welcome to the Downs. Have fun and post often.

merlilot · 06-22-2002, 01:07 PM

Oh, believe me, I post often. You guys will want to get rid of me. I knew what Elen sila lumenn omentilmo meant, but am still wondering what the translation of Mae govannen is. I know it is something along the lines of welcome...

Raefindel · 06-22-2002, 03:10 PM

Mae Govannen is "Well Met".

Tigerlily Gamgee · 06-23-2002, 05:45 PM

<font color=gold>I'm a cop-out! I am paying a seamstress to make a cape for me. But I am picking out my own material (an elven grey of course!). I can't wait for the Renaissance Festival!!!!!

Raefindel · 06-23-2002, 07:27 PM

I have a burgandy lined in gold and a sage green. My daughters chose really wild fabrics. The younger's is purple with stars in one side and green with leaves on the other. The older's is light blue with fairies on one side and pink with hearts on the other. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

merlilot · 06-23-2002, 08:41 PM

The RenFest is the best! I love it! I wanna work there, but I can't, not with my school sched.

Oh, OK, Well Met. Gracias!

Auriel Haevasawen · 06-24-2002, 02:52 PM

If I've posted this information before I apologise. McCalls make a set of patterns called 'Evening Elegance' most of them are utter girlie pants but one has got a lovely cloak and elf dress ensemble. I made the dress recently but I've put the pattern in my pattern box so give me a few days to find the number. If I can be of any help with the sewing stuff just ask. I've been dressing in a somewhat unique manner for a number of years now. (Mme.Vampire in the Winter and Elf in the Summer!)

The Silver-shod Muse · 06-25-2002, 08:57 PM

*sigh* If I had time and money I'd do all this... [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

elfearz1 · 08-04-2003, 10:12 AM

Simplicity also makes patterns for cloaks under "costumes." Also if you are short on money. (this is going to sound reallly stupid) but buy a sheet that is similiar in material and color to cloaks and it works well enough.

03-27-2002, 03:45 PM	#1
cheeto Pile O'Bones Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 20	cloak question(thread?needle?get over here!) I'm thinking about making a cloak,I've made them and other things for younger relitives,but I've never put a hood on them,I was wondering if anyone could show picks or explain any ideas on how to add one without it looking too obviosely like it was sewed on seperatly(does that make sense?)and would a drawstring look tacky?(it's looked fine with the others,but I like hearing other ideas)if you have a desighn with sleeves(I've seen them before,very cool)post it up

03-27-2002, 03:49 PM	#2
Aralaithiel Ghost Eldaran Queen Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: A remote mountain in Valinor Posts: 353	Try this pattern. It's fairly simple to make. http://home.clara.net/arianrhod/Alde...f/Cloak02.html __________________ A lelyat, wen! (Quenya Elvish for "You go, girl!"

03-27-2002, 07:58 PM	#3
Elven-Maiden Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 297	looks cool! I'm gonna try it too! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Tout ce qui est or ne brille pas, Tous ceux qui errent ne sont pas perdus. Mobilis in Mobile

03-28-2002, 02:14 PM	#4
Nuranar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: STILL a drought Posts: 529	That pattern looks great! If I ever finish all my other projects, I'd like to try it some day... Just one thing: The pattern suggested crushed velvet or cotton/polycotton. I wear a cape for living history and I wouldn't dream of not having one made of wool. It is heavy, but it's far warmer than cotton. Mine is also lined in flannel. In Texas is doesn't get super cold, and my cape is none too warm! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] Just a thought if you wanted to use your cloak as an outerwear garment. Have fun! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] __________________ I admit it is better fun to punt than be punted, and that a desire to have all the fun is nine-tenths of the law of chivalry. Lord Peter Wimsey

03-28-2002, 03:36 PM	#5
Starbreeze Ghost of a Smile Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mirkwood - Middle Earth Posts: 389	OOOOO! I gotta have a go @ that! __________________ Do not tamper with the affairs of wizards, they are not all that subtle - Terry Pratchett To write is to make dreams, to make dreams is to awaken the fantasy of the mind, to awaken the mind is to be a master.

03-28-2002, 05:02 PM	#6
VanimaEdhel Etheral Enchantress Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wellesley College! Posts: 1,461	Knowing me, if I WERE to make a cloak, then I would wing it. I'd be like, "Oh, this looks good cut like THIS...OH! And this should be shaped like THIS...and you sew it like...THIS!" And, it actually wouldn't turn out that bad and would probably be fairly true to what the hobbit-cloaks would look like. Elf cloaks, those would be perfect, but... My mom DID make a really good hooded cloak when I was like eight and I was Little Red Riding Hood...it looked exactly like the ones in FotR actually. She used a pattern from...hmmm...which one of those books? McCall's maybe...if you want a pattern you can take HOME, then go to any sewing store with patterns, they'll have them! __________________ "I think we dream so we don't have to be apart so long. If we're in each others dreams, we can be together all the time." - Hobbes of Calvin and Hobbes

03-30-2002, 08:23 PM	#7
Raefindel Sword of the Spirit Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,313	I made my own cloak and I have two thoughts on how you can make it hooded. 1) Make it reversible or lined(simple to do even if the pattern doesn't call for it) and sew the hood BETWEEN the two layers. 2) Put it on with buttons so it can be removed. This way both the cloak collar and the bottom edge of the hood will be finished. Well, now that I'v thought about it I've come up with a third, but describing it would be difficult. 3) Put a plain collar on the cloak, just a long piece of straight fabric folded over both the inside and outside and sew the hood under that. (be careful not to sew it on the wrong side.) Hope that was understandable. I know it can be tough trying to make sense of something with no pictures. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Blessed be the Lord my Strength, Who trained my hands for war and my fingers to fight. Psallm 144:1

03-30-2002, 08:53 PM	#8
Raefindel Sword of the Spirit Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,313	Cheeto, I'm assuming you're female here, after I made my cloak I made a purse/ bag to match from the scraps. Be glad to describe that if you're interested. __________________ Blessed be the Lord my Strength, Who trained my hands for war and my fingers to fight. Psallm 144:1

03-31-2002, 02:03 PM	#9
cheeto Pile O'Bones Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 20	go ahead and post the steps for the bag Raefindel,I probly won't get started for a long time,(just got back from a trip and I'm broke)

03-31-2002, 02:11 PM	#10
Niere-Teleliniel Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a messy room on the third floor. Posts: 67	I agree with Nuranar: make it WARM. i live in Pennsylvania, and when I went running thru the woods with my friends (like the idiots we are [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] ) I was COLD cause my cloak was only 1 layer of cotton (dumb me, not to much elven-sense, I guess) Also, to give it a snappy finish, buy or devise some kind of brooch. [ March 31, 2002: Message edited by: Niere-Teleliniel ] __________________ He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.... ~Douglas Adams

04-05-2002, 03:24 PM	#11
Raefindel Sword of the Spirit Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,313	Well, Let's see... I cut two circles, one of each fabric, the outside and the lining ( I lined my cloak) each circle was about 15 inches. I think I traced a large plate. Put WRONG sides of fabric together and sew around the edge leaving enough room to put your hand in and turn it right-side-out. Sew up the hole.Iron flat(very important). Sew a finishing stitch as close to the edge of the fabric as you can. sew two more times around the circle- one seam one inch from the edge and one a half inch further in. Cut a small hole (like a button hole) between these two (like a rod-pocket on curtains) and run a cord through it with a saftey pin. Pull the cord tight... ta dah! Let me know if this isn't understandable. I can see if I can re-write it to make more sense. OK? __________________ Blessed be the Lord my Strength, Who trained my hands for war and my fingers to fight. Psallm 144:1

04-07-2002, 05:40 PM	#12
Raefindel Sword of the Spirit Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,313	Just a thought to add to what Nuranar and Niere-Teleliniel said about fabric. I lined mine wtih satin and found this to be a BIG mistake. It is hot in the summer and cold in the winter. I wish I had lined it with cotton. [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img] __________________ Blessed be the Lord my Strength, Who trained my hands for war and my fingers to fight. Psallm 144:1

06-21-2002, 11:45 PM	#13
Joy Spirit of a Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wandering Posts: 1,012	I am using Baroque Satin as my lining, but I am using crushed velvet for the cloak, but down here in Ga, it doesn't get too cold, well most of the time.... [ June 22, 2002: Message edited by: Joy ] __________________ God bless, Joy KingdomWarrior@hotmail.com http://kingdomWarrior.jlym.com As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O God. My soul thirsteth for God, for the living God: when shall I come and appear before God?

06-21-2002, 11:53 PM	#14
Yerniel Vénea Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ithilien Posts: 24	I have a pattern from McCall's that has one cloak. the pattern # is P438. It is a simple one w/ a hood but it is only one layered. It is long too, down to the ankles or so. I have not made it but will try it someday. A friend of my recently bought one from Simplicity and it is a pattern w/ 3 types of cloaks: a guy's cloak, a long woman's, and another that I cannot think of right now. I just found one on-line and the # is 9452 of Simplicity (not the one my friend has). I will try and find out what the # is for the cool pattern she has for the cloak, ok? If all else fails, find out pattern brand names and look at their sites. www.simplicity.com and there's others but I can't think of 'em! __________________ Laita Ilúvatar! "But what?" said Gandalf. "Only one but will I allow tonight."

06-21-2002, 11:56 PM	#15
Nimrodel Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Golden Wood Posts: 48	Lady Rae is right, they are easy to line. Just do everything twice. __________________ Beside the falls of Nimrodel,By water clear and cool, Her voice as falling silver fell Into the shining pool

06-22-2002, 12:00 AM	#16
Joy Spirit of a Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wandering Posts: 1,012	Yerniel, I will be using Mccall's pattern #9410 for my cloak, but I am looking to make a cloak for the guys that are in our group, so I might take a look at that one that you posted. Also, I am making the cloak claps also. __________________ God bless, Joy KingdomWarrior@hotmail.com http://kingdomWarrior.jlym.com As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O God. My soul thirsteth for God, for the living God: when shall I come and appear before God?

06-22-2002, 11:54 AM	#17
merlilot Wight Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Brandy Hall, Buckland, the Eastmarch of the Shire Posts: 204	Wow, I thought I was th only wierdo who wanted a cloak. And to think all the times I safety pinned a blanket to my shoulders...No really, I wanna make one, but have a) no money and b) no time, so it looks like I'm screwed for that one. __________________ <--- and Billy Boyd. Thanks for the pic Alatariel (hope I spelled it right) even if i took it without permission

06-22-2002, 12:44 PM	#18
Raefindel Sword of the Spirit Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,313	Yes, Sewing is expensive and time consuming. I have 2 cloaks I made for myself and I made each of my daughers a reversable cloak. It was fun to take them to the fabric store and let them each choose fabric. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Blessed be the Lord my Strength, Who trained my hands for war and my fingers to fight. Psallm 144:1

06-22-2002, 12:59 PM	#19
Joy Spirit of a Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wandering Posts: 1,012	Mae govannan Merlilot. Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo. (A star shines on the hour of our meeting.) Welcome to the Downs. Have fun and post often. __________________ God bless, Joy KingdomWarrior@hotmail.com http://kingdomWarrior.jlym.com As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O God. My soul thirsteth for God, for the living God: when shall I come and appear before God?

06-22-2002, 01:07 PM	#20
merlilot Wight Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Brandy Hall, Buckland, the Eastmarch of the Shire Posts: 204	Oh, believe me, I post often. You guys will want to get rid of me. I knew what Elen sila lumenn omentilmo meant, but am still wondering what the translation of Mae govannen is. I know it is something along the lines of welcome... __________________ <--- and Billy Boyd. Thanks for the pic Alatariel (hope I spelled it right) even if i took it without permission

06-22-2002, 03:10 PM	#21
Raefindel Sword of the Spirit Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,313	Mae Govannen is "Well Met". __________________ Blessed be the Lord my Strength, Who trained my hands for war and my fingers to fight. Psallm 144:1

06-23-2002, 05:45 PM	#22
Tigerlily Gamgee Hostess of Spirits Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Meduseld Posts: 1,055	<font color=gold>I'm a cop-out! I am paying a seamstress to make a cape for me. But I am picking out my own material (an elven grey of course!). I can't wait for the Renaissance Festival!!!!! __________________ ~ ExerciseJunky.com (Hobbits fitness of choice!)~ ~Lady of Rohan: An Eowyn Fansite ~ ~The NEW/OLD Barrow Downs Photo Page~

06-23-2002, 07:27 PM	#23
Raefindel Sword of the Spirit Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,313	I have a burgandy lined in gold and a sage green. My daughters chose really wild fabrics. The younger's is purple with stars in one side and green with leaves on the other. The older's is light blue with fairies on one side and pink with hearts on the other. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] __________________ Blessed be the Lord my Strength, Who trained my hands for war and my fingers to fight. Psallm 144:1

06-23-2002, 08:41 PM	#24
merlilot Wight Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Brandy Hall, Buckland, the Eastmarch of the Shire Posts: 204	The RenFest is the best! I love it! I wanna work there, but I can't, not with my school sched. Oh, OK, Well Met. Gracias! __________________ <--- and Billy Boyd. Thanks for the pic Alatariel (hope I spelled it right) even if i took it without permission

06-24-2002, 02:52 PM	#25
Auriel Haevasawen Wight Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nowhere of importance Posts: 240	If I've posted this information before I apologise. McCalls make a set of patterns called 'Evening Elegance' most of them are utter girlie pants but one has got a lovely cloak and elf dress ensemble. I made the dress recently but I've put the pattern in my pattern box so give me a few days to find the number. If I can be of any help with the sewing stuff just ask. I've been dressing in a somewhat unique manner for a number of years now. (Mme.Vampire in the Winter and Elf in the Summer!) __________________ Auriel

06-25-2002, 08:57 PM	#26
The Silver-shod Muse Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: The shoulder of a poet, TX Posts: 388	sigh If I had time and money I'd do all this... [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] __________________ "'You," he said, "tell her all. What good came to you? Do you rejoice that Maleldil became a man? Tell her of your joys, and of what profit you had when you made Maleldil and death acquainted.'" -Perelandra, by C.S. Lewis

08-04-2003, 10:12 AM	#27
elfearz1 Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 259	Simplicity also makes patterns for cloaks under "costumes." Also if you are short on money. (this is going to sound reallly stupid) but buy a sheet that is similiar in material and color to cloaks and it works well enough. __________________ I didn't eat Merry, i just ate his waistcoat!-Horse maidens dream 915/920 miles. On my way to Lothlorien! ^^Elfearz^^