The Grey Havens - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Maluriel · 07-24-2003, 05:41 PM

Every tell me please what you think of this place, plus everything the books have to say about it.

Maluriel, Varya Quendelion

Meela · 07-25-2003, 08:11 AM

I can't say anything about the books, but I can give my opinion: beautiful, mysterious, hallowed, *the* place to be.

dancing spawn of ungoliant · 07-25-2003, 12:26 PM

I imagine the Grey Havens to be kind of sad place. There lives the memory from the days of Númenor and elves there know that their time is ending (I'm thinking about the 3rd age now...).
It's really calm and relaxing place but there lives the feeling about waiting for the other elves to join them and travel to Valinor.

Numenorean · 08-04-2003, 07:20 AM

Hello Maluriel,
Mithlond, the Grey Havens was founded by Círdan the Shipwright in the first year of the 2nd Age, it was a harbour, shipyard, fort and settlement, so in the early years through to the fall of Gil-galad it was probably always a-bustlin' with Elvish activity, after then maybe not so much.
I'd have to agree with Meela+DSofUngoly, the Havens would be a soothing yet invocative place to be.
For me it would all be so sad and dreamlike to gaze across the sea there and realise that the entire continent of Beleriand, with all of its tales of horror and wonder, once stretched far off into the distance, long ago...

Finwe · 08-04-2003, 08:28 AM

I think that the atmosphere around that place would be one of sorrow, homesicknes, and longing. The people who lived there would one day sail West to Aman, and I daresay that they were slightly homesick for it.

Novberaid · 08-06-2003, 06:11 PM

I would agree with Finwe. The elves are there waiting to leave. How would it feel to know you were only waiting to leave for the Undying Lands? How long does the last elf (Cirdan I believe) wait? How long, when
you are immortal?

Kaiserin · 08-07-2003, 04:06 AM

The Greay Havens is a port, and in a way a "stop over" for elves on their way to the Far West. I suppose it is just what the name suggests - "Grey Havens": a dreary place of rest (it's an oxymoron, actually). It's a haven in a sense that they can almost feel at home there, but it's grey because the most common emotion one would have in it would be longing, dreaming, nostalgia, maybe even loneliness.

07-24-2003, 05:41 PM	#1
Maluriel Pile O'Bones Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: in a hole under a rock Posts: 21	The Grey Havens Every tell me please what you think of this place, plus everything the books have to say about it. Maluriel, Varya Quendelion __________________ The elf will not be forgotten, for I am The Varya Quendelion.

07-25-2003, 08:11 AM	#2
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	I can't say anything about the books, but I can give my opinion: beautiful, mysterious, hallowed, the place to be. __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

07-25-2003, 12:26 PM	#3
dancing spawn of ungoliant Mischievous Candle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: So near to Russia, so far from Japan, quite a long way from Cairo, lots of miles from Vietnam. Posts: 1,234	I imagine the Grey Havens to be kind of sad place. There lives the memory from the days of Númenor and elves there know that their time is ending (I'm thinking about the 3rd age now...). It's really calm and relaxing place but there lives the feeling about waiting for the other elves to join them and travel to Valinor. __________________ Fenris Wolf

08-04-2003, 07:20 AM	#4
Numenorean Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bay of Eldanna Posts: 94	Hello Maluriel, Mithlond, the Grey Havens was founded by Círdan the Shipwright in the first year of the 2nd Age, it was a harbour, shipyard, fort and settlement, so in the early years through to the fall of Gil-galad it was probably always a-bustlin' with Elvish activity, after then maybe not so much. I'd have to agree with Meela+DSofUngoly, the Havens would be a soothing yet invocative place to be. For me it would all be so sad and dreamlike to gaze across the sea there and realise that the entire continent of Beleriand, with all of its tales of horror and wonder, once stretched far off into the distance, long ago... __________________ '…Avallónë, the haven of the Eldar upon Eressëa, easternmost of the Undying Lands, and thence at times the Firstborn still would come sailing to Númenor in oarless boats, as white birds flying from the sunset…'

08-04-2003, 08:28 AM	#5
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	I think that the atmosphere around that place would be one of sorrow, homesicknes, and longing. The people who lived there would one day sail West to Aman, and I daresay that they were slightly homesick for it. __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

08-06-2003, 06:11 PM	#6
Novberaid Animated Skeleton Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mirkwood Forest Posts: 45	I would agree with Finwe. The elves are there waiting to leave. How would it feel to know you were only waiting to leave for the Undying Lands? How long does the last elf (Cirdan I believe) wait? How long, when you are immortal? __________________ By the starlit mere of Cuivienen, they rose from the sleep of Iluvatar

08-07-2003, 04:06 AM	#7
Kaiserin Wight Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cair Paravel Posts: 150	The Greay Havens is a port, and in a way a "stop over" for elves on their way to the Far West. I suppose it is just what the name suggests - "Grey Havens": a dreary place of rest (it's an oxymoron, actually). It's a haven in a sense that they can almost feel at home there, but it's grey because the most common emotion one would have in it would be longing, dreaming, nostalgia, maybe even loneliness. __________________ The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.