The out-of-wedlock child

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Since the question has still not been answered, I'll just throw it out here and let Jes settle the question in the trivia section.

As stated; I believed this might have some use as a discussion topic.

The answer according to text by Tolkien: Aranarth.
The Birth of Aranarth is given as T.A. 1938; while the marriage of Arvedui and Firiel is given as T.A. 1940.

The dates were revised between Aranarth and Aragorn II with care by Tolkien.
He purposely did not alter Aranarth or Aragorn II, nor has any other date for the marriage of Firiel and Arvedui been seen.

The discussion I surmised that might be of value is of the prophecy of Malbeth concerning Arvedui and the rejection of the claim by Gondor (when according to Law; Firiel's children had a legal claim, also evidenced by sister-son descent in the Stewards with Denethor I).

I also had a question on Numenorean coutship lengths: answer; 3 years was considered 'normal'.
<blockquote>Quote:<hr> J.R.R. Tolkien Aldarion and Erendis
'Now the year came in, in which all looked for the marriage of the King's Heir; for it was not custom that betrothal should last much longer than three years.'<hr></blockquote>
How much this applies to Dunedain customs retained from Numenorean customs is questionable; however the dating seems to also give additional credence.

So with this; does the prophecy of Malbeth hint at an untold dark tale of the reign of Arvedui and its disaster from this foray into promiscuity leading to the downfall of Arthedain, yet setting the stage for the Return of the King?


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