Poor Bill - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

12-06-2002, 06:39 PM

Everyone likes Frodo, Legolas, etc., but poor Bill the devoted Horse has no following!! All the other characters have fansites and groups, but not good old Bill [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] . Well, enough is enough!! Bill now has a fansite and group!!
http://www.geocities.com/billthehorse2000/

You can get into Bill's group site by clicking on the little Bill picture at the bottom of the fansite!! It's all very new and still under construction, but support thy loyal horse!!

And now for a question...who else do you feel is a character that is somewhat overlooked in Lotr??? Thanks for listening [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] !

[ December 06, 2002: Message edited by: Bill the Horse ]

Saurannûn the Wood Elf · 12-06-2002, 07:08 PM

Well my dear Bill, there already IS an underappreciated character thread in Middle Earth Mayhem if you want to go THERE, but just for conversation's sake, I think Fatty Bolger was underappreciated too!

Galadel Vinorel · 12-06-2002, 07:15 PM

I think that Haldir of Lothlorien is a slightly underappreciated character as well. He did save the Fellowship from orcs in Lothlorien, for goodness's sake!! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

By the way, welcome to the Barrowdowns, Bill the Horse!! May your rest be long and peaceful!! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

[ December 06, 2002: Message edited by: Galadel Vinorel ]

12-07-2002, 01:51 AM

Thank you so much for your warm welcome Galadel Vinorel...it was very kind of you!! And also thanks to you and Saurannun the Wood Elf for your replies!!! I think I shall enjoy my stay at Barrow-Downs! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Tigerlily Gamgee · 12-07-2002, 02:01 AM

I am sure that Samwise will love that you are here!
Hullo and welcome, Bill!

Túroch · 12-07-2002, 03:49 AM

Don't jump down my throught here but isn't Bill technically a pony and not a horse. He is under 14.2 hands and his refered to as a pony everywhere. I mean no disrespect, Bill is in fact a great (and often under appreciated) part of the fellowship.

Meela · 12-07-2002, 07:45 AM

Yes, Haldir was very much under-represented, although I can forgive that since he has only a minor role in the books. And I suppose Legolas was also, given that we know very little about him, background-wise.

I'm really not too fussed about Bill. Although a support group to raise the awareness of horses and ponies throughout Middle-earth, and have their sterling efforts in the battles and quests duly rewarded would surely be much appreciated.

Cherie Centaur · 12-07-2002, 09:46 AM

Yes, Meela, I believe that Legolas' past is an enigma in the books and the movie. In fact, most of the Elves' origens are unknown. I think the only ones that do are Elrond, Galadriel(who both have rings),and Arwen( who is Aragorn's love intrest).

Nieninque · 12-09-2002, 07:38 PM

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. and i suppose legolas in a way... as he wasnt given a background, etc... i dunno if anyone agrees with that...

I forget where I read this, but Tolkien said that Legolas was his least favorite character. Poor Legolas! I think he's forgotten a lot too... he's the Prince of freaking Mirkwood, but he doesn't get much screentime in FotR, nor much 'pagetime' in FotR either. He, of course, is more important in TTT, but... he could have played a more prominent role, being the only elf in the Fellowhsip... *sobs for Legolas*

Furry-footed Flatfoot the Hobbit · 12-09-2002, 09:44 PM

Yes, Bill is underappreciated and overlooked! But poor old Furry-footed Flatfoot the Hobbit that lived in the Shire was SO much more overlooked that Tolkien forgot to even put the poor hobbit in his book....LOL

Diamond18 · 12-09-2002, 11:03 PM

Hey, what about Diamond and Estella? Rose got all this attention in the last two chapters, but Diamond and Estella just got a couple nods in the Appendix. Humph. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Bill Ferny · 12-10-2002, 12:30 AM

POOR BILL THE PONY!!! Poor Bill the stinking, scrawny pony, INDEED! What about the original Bill? Huh? What about that poor underrated, misunderstood, poorly written upstanding citizen of Bree that fed and bred that ungrateful piece of horse meat at the expense of house and hearth? And what thanks did he get for it? An apple between the eyes from an ungrateful little sot!

Phooey on your pony!

Kalimac · 12-10-2002, 12:50 AM

I second Diamond's nominations, ESPECIALLY for poor Estella Bolger. First she gets left out of the first few editions altogether (and to this day a lot of translations leave her out) and furthermore, although it's clear from context in the "Subsequent Events.." appendix that she and Merry had at least one child - is it ever named? Ohhh no. I'd like to nominate Merry and Estella Brandybuck's presumed offspring for this award as well [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img].

12-06-2002, 06:39 PM	#1
Bill the Horse Guest Posts: n/a	Poor Bill Everyone likes Frodo, Legolas, etc., but poor Bill the devoted Horse has no following!! All the other characters have fansites and groups, but not good old Bill [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] . Well, enough is enough!! Bill now has a fansite and group!! http://www.geocities.com/billthehorse2000/ You can get into Bill's group site by clicking on the little Bill picture at the bottom of the fansite!! It's all very new and still under construction, but support thy loyal horse!! And now for a question...who else do you feel is a character that is somewhat overlooked in Lotr??? Thanks for listening [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] ! [ December 06, 2002: Message edited by: Bill the Horse ]

12-06-2002, 07:08 PM	#2
Saurannûn the Wood Elf Haunting Spirit Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mirkwood Forest Posts: 59	Well my dear Bill, there already IS an underappreciated character thread in Middle Earth Mayhem if you want to go THERE, but just for conversation's sake, I think Fatty Bolger was underappreciated too! __________________ Purple is a fruit.

12-06-2002, 07:15 PM	#3
Galadel Vinorel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Lothlorien, the Woodlen Realm Posts: 366	I think that Haldir of Lothlorien is a slightly underappreciated character as well. He did save the Fellowship from orcs in Lothlorien, for goodness's sake!! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] By the way, welcome to the Barrowdowns, Bill the Horse!! May your rest be long and peaceful!! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [ December 06, 2002: Message edited by: Galadel Vinorel ] __________________ “Words can never convey the incredible impact of our attitude toward life. The longer I live the more convinced I become that life is 10 percent what happens to us and 90 percent how we respond to it." -Charles R. Swindoll

12-07-2002, 02:01 AM	#5
Tigerlily Gamgee Hostess of Spirits Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Meduseld Posts: 1,055	I am sure that Samwise will love that you are here! Hullo and welcome, Bill! __________________ ~ ExerciseJunky.com (Hobbits fitness of choice!)~ ~Lady of Rohan: An Eowyn Fansite ~ ~The NEW/OLD Barrow Downs Photo Page~

12-07-2002, 03:49 AM	#6
Túroch Wight Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Oklahoma State University Posts: 102	Don't jump down my throught here but isn't Bill technically a pony and not a horse. He is under 14.2 hands and his refered to as a pony everywhere. I mean no disrespect, Bill is in fact a great (and often under appreciated) part of the fellowship. __________________ For the valour of the Edain the Elves shall ever remember as the ages lengthen, marvelling that they gave life so freely of which thay had on earth so little. But it is not for thy valour only that I send thee, but to bring into the world a hope beyond thy sight, and a light that shall pierce the darkness." Ulmo - Lord of waters

12-07-2002, 01:51 AM	#4
Bill the Horse Guest Posts: n/a	Thank you so much for your warm welcome Galadel Vinorel...it was very kind of you!! And also thanks to you and Saurannun the Wood Elf for your replies!!! I think I shall enjoy my stay at Barrow-Downs! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

12-07-2002, 07:45 AM	#7
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	Yes, Haldir was very much under-represented, although I can forgive that since he has only a minor role in the books. And I suppose Legolas was also, given that we know very little about him, background-wise. I'm really not too fussed about Bill. Although a support group to raise the awareness of horses and ponies throughout Middle-earth, and have their sterling efforts in the battles and quests duly rewarded would surely be much appreciated. __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard. Last edited by Meela; 11-26-2004 at 01:05 PM.

12-07-2002, 09:46 AM	#8
Cherie Centaur Haunting Spirit Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cottage Cheese near the Gap Posts: 95	Yes, Meela, I believe that Legolas' past is an enigma in the books and the movie. In fact, most of the Elves' origens are unknown. I think the only ones that do are Elrond, Galadriel(who both have rings),and Arwen( who is Aragorn's love intrest). __________________ Why do we let the monkey slide for popping the weasel? Just because he thought it was fun? Guys, we're dealing with a psycho.

12-09-2002, 09:44 PM	#10
Furry-footed Flatfoot the Hobbit Pile O'Bones Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 13	Yes, Bill is underappreciated and overlooked! But poor old Furry-footed Flatfoot the Hobbit that lived in the Shire was SO much more overlooked that Tolkien forgot to even put the poor hobbit in his book....LOL __________________ Furry-footed Flatfoot the Hobbit from Haysend

12-09-2002, 11:03 PM	#11
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	Hey, what about Diamond and Estella? Rose got all this attention in the last two chapters, but Diamond and Estella just got a couple nods in the Appendix. Humph. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

12-10-2002, 12:30 AM	#12
Bill Ferny Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bree Posts: 390	POOR BILL THE PONY!!! Poor Bill the stinking, scrawny pony, INDEED! What about the original Bill? Huh? What about that poor underrated, misunderstood, poorly written upstanding citizen of Bree that fed and bred that ungrateful piece of horse meat at the expense of house and hearth? And what thanks did he get for it? An apple between the eyes from an ungrateful little sot! Phooey on your pony! __________________ I prefer Gillaume d’Férny, connoisseur of fine fruit.

12-10-2002, 12:50 AM	#13
Kalimac Candle of the Marshes Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Flyover Country Posts: 780	I second Diamond's nominations, ESPECIALLY for poor Estella Bolger. First she gets left out of the first few editions altogether (and to this day a lot of translations leave her out) and furthermore, although it's clear from context in the "Subsequent Events.." appendix that she and Merry had at least one child - is it ever named? Ohhh no. I'd like to nominate Merry and Estella Brandybuck's presumed offspring for this award as well [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]. __________________ Father, dear Father, if you see fit, We'll send my love to college for one year yet Tie blue ribbons all about his head, To let the ladies know that he's married.