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Old 03-05-2005, 07:53 AM   #1
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Character(s) that you dont like...

What character(s) do you not like in LOTR (from books,because its to easy for an actor to ruin a character.....orli) well anyway what characters dont you like from the books?

My picks would have to be:

1)Denethor-He doesnt do anything to help his city in the wars because in my opinion hes just a foolish old man that loves one son WAY better than the other.

2)Barliman Butterbur-Another foolish old man that could have helped Frodo by giving his letter from Gandalf sooner, but did other wise and the wraiths came sooner.
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Old 03-05-2005, 09:04 AM   #2
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1)Denethor-He doesnt do anything to help his city in the wars because in my opinion hes just a foolish old man that loves one son WAY better than the other.
Denethor is surely an awful father and an awful man, and I can understand if one doesn't like him (especially once you start comparing him to Theoden). However, it would be wrong to say that Denethor "did nothing" to help his city in the wars. He did a bunch, and if it wasn't for him I don't know if Gondor would have won.

He used the palantir (eventhough if it caused his downfall), to learn a lot about Sauron, and he used it to his advantage, figuring out where Sauron was going to attack, and how he was going to defend it. When Gandalf finally gets to Minas Tirith, Denethor has Gondor's armies entering the city, he has lit the beacons, he has sent out Hirgon, he has been building walls, and the defense of the city is pretty much set. Denethor does the planning of the defenses, the difference between him and Theoden is Theoden is an excellent leader of men. Denethor sits back in his hall and spends his mens life (even his own sons), where Theoden goes out there to the front lines and leads his men.

It is certainly understandable to not like Denethor, however to say "he did nothing" is just incorrect.

As for what character I don't like, hmmm toughy. I'm even intrigued by some of the baddies (like Saruman and Grima). I'd have to say I don't like Harry Goatleaf. When we first meet him a like him, but he turns out to be nothing but a traitor that follows Sharkey and Ferney.
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Old 03-05-2005, 11:33 AM   #3
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Gollum.

I am very Sam-like in this matter. I can tolerate him, and I appreciate the part he has to play, but for me he is a nasty, slimy, treacherous creature.

Fascinating from a reader's point of view, but I never could sympathize fully with Frodo for taking him in.
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What a shame to criticise Butterbur so. There was no malevolent desire to endanger Frodo; he was merely an extremely busy and worried man who did not realise the gravity of the situation.

I suppose someone will nominate Treebeard sooner or later....
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Old 03-05-2005, 12:17 PM   #6
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Argh! That would be decidedly uncool.

It always baffles me why Tolkien fans dislike those two.
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Gollum.

I am very Sam-like in this matter. I can tolerate him, and I appreciate the part he has to play, but for me he is a nasty, slimy, treacherous creature.

Fascinating from a reader's point of view, but I never could sympathize fully with Frodo for taking him in.

Uhm.... I don't know why, but I really really really love Gollum... esp the 2 personalities' debate... I mean, in my world, I do not usually encounter organismswho speaks in that Gollum fashion....
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Old 04-18-2005, 03:23 AM   #8
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Gollum.

I am very Sam-like in this matter. I can tolerate him, and I appreciate the part he has to play, but for me he is a nasty, slimy, treacherous creature.

Fascinating from a reader's point of view, but I never could sympathize fully with Frodo for taking him in.
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Uhm, I hate to contradict Formendacil, esp that I love the signature.... but I think Gollum is a masterpiece villain of old JRRT... I mean, one does not usually encounter organisms talking in a Gollum-like style... and that style has always, uhm, what's the term, magulo pero cute...

And the character(s) I don't like? Well, it's kinda tough...

Tom Bombadil, maybe, that stupid guy who's a cross between a hobbit and a man, wearing those stupid outfits... Well, the thing that annoys me 'bout him is his manner of dressing, not his language or anything....


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