Well, I cannot really find anything Seer-ish looking about
Kath, not at all - which is rather puzzling. I would really expect the WWs to go for the Seer and not just sit randomly around, when they have twice as big a chance to hit the Seer than usual. Same with
Ozzy, unless somebody thought his verses refer to any dream-y nature of his or whatnot.
There is another connection, though, which
Zil did not mention -
Kath said specifically in one of her last posts that she certainly DOES NOT want to vote for
Nessa (because she hasn't played with her before, simple as that -
Nessa was in threat to be lynched at that point). But in any case that places her in the opposite basket to
Ozzy. So in fact, I would put it this way: if the votes point to anybody, it is actually also
Nessa, and maybe more than
Inzil. The question is, though,
how do they point at her, as in, what it means. I haven't found a good answer for that yet.
Of course, there is the possibility that either of the kills was suggested to the Wolves by the Cobbler. However, it would be a rather weird pick, in my opinion.
Personally, right now I would say that the point was the simplest one - a sort of no-trace kill, resp. a kill with a trace to somebody to frame: that's what I would expect. The question is (and that's to return to my unanswered question I raised above) if it was so, then who was to be framed and by whom,
Nessa by
Inzil,
Inzil by
Nessa, both by somebody, or nobody at all.
I don't have time or concentration enough for this now, however, so it will have to wait until after I sleep - several hours. Meanwhile, I think there might be quite a few posts.
And so, I add just the response to the questions from yesterDay:
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Originally Posted by Pitchwife
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Originally Posted by Legate
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Originally Posted by Lottie
Agan calls certain roles 'she' habitually - the one that comes to mind is the cobbler. I haven't noticed her calling the seer 'she' before, but it seems like an Aganish sort of thing to do.
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Now if we are speaking of Cobbler hints, THIS might be one.
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I'm not sure what you're saying here, Legate - that Lottie says Agan calling the cobbler 'she' is a cobbler-hint, or that Lottie is cobbler-hinting herself in this quote? If the latter, I'd say that's quite a stretch.
(As for the matter itself, I've noticed that Agan habitually calls all roles 'she' - obviously she doesn't hold with gender-neutral pronouns; so this is certainly not a cobbler-hint on her part.)
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Originally Posted by wilwarin538
I agree, I don't know what Legate is getting at. Agan always refers to unknown people as a 'she', it's her way of protesting against our male-dominated society (at least, that's what I like to think she's doing). So no wolf looking at that would ever think it a Cobbler hint, it's just something she always does no matter what. And I don't see how what Lottie says could be a Cobbler hint. I'd like some clarification here on what he meant.
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What I meant was that
Lottie, of all the roles, mentioned the Cobbler in her post. It came out of the blue. It would have been sufficient to say "
Agan always calls unknown roles she". If she calls all of them 'she' (which is, to my knowledge, also true, I am not disputing that at all), then why to say "one that comes to my mind is the cobbler"? Specifically mentioning a cobbler in such a random place might have been a Cobbler-hint, or
Lottie-cobbler checking if
Agan is a Wolf, or
Lottie-Wolf checking if
Agan is a cobbler... etc. Anyway, it was more like a remark, and the core of my suspicion was the latter part of my post. I would not have voted
Lottie just because I'd think she's a Cobbler (which would've been in the first part a more likely outcome), I voted her because I thought she might be a Wolf.
Anyway, speaking of that, after her later posts yesterDay, I am not actually suspicious of
Lottie much anymore now (though of course that's to see what she posts toDay).
So, later...
EDIT: x-ed since my last post