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Old 01-23-2001, 12:40 AM   #26
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a few additions and new layout

New Outline

A Few Notes:
+++This outline does not as yet reflect the group consensus on all
points [as the group has not yet debated most of them formally] it is primarily the opinions of lindil who loves
lists and drafts and such.
+++ I have endeavored to include such decisions as the group has
made [esp. in following the X versions of chapters ad subchapters for
the Silmarilion.
+++Even where not specifically mentioned it is assumed that All
relevant Annals of IV,V,X, and XI will be consulted.
+++I have begun [but not completed using the abbreviations used in
the thread of the same name-so check there for resolution to any
obscurities.
++++ [chapters listed from 1977 Silmarillion { aka. &quot;77}&quot; are
brackeeted]&quot;and in time the 77 chapters will be replaced by an entirely
new system based on the final revisions of Morgoth's Ring and War of
the Jewels.
++++ Below however I list the major texts [or parts ] which I think[at
this point at least] can be inserted in whole or part into the respective
chapters.
++++This is by no means an exhaustive listing ,just a framework to
hang further ideas on -or take them off. I am sure there are alot of
things I havn't caught yet so... Please feel free to monkey around w/
it and put up a new one.Or debate w/ me fiercely .
++++ The outline does not yet reflect the inclusion of the remarkable
texts omitted by CRRT from HoME but given by him to the remarkable
journal Vinyar Tengwar, I hope to includde this in the near future.
++++ This not an outline that takes the more radical farreaching
ideas of Myth's transsformed into account . The thread of that name
covers some issues , but more recently and importantly Saulotus has
posted [and done much researchand editing already] on this topic .
Perhaps an outline similar to this w/explanations of the changes
involved in a MT versionof each chapter will appear at some point in
the future?
so here is the OLD STYLE SILMARILLION outline as it stands now:
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AINULINDALE/VALAQUNTA -not yet outlined


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QUENTA SILMARILLION

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1 Of VALINOR AND THE TWO TREES /[1]OF THE BEGINING DAYS

[2] OF AULE AND YAVANNA

3 OF THE COMING OF THE ELVES
.. add parts of 'Quendi andEldar'[vol 11]

4 OF THINGOL AND MELIAN

5 OF ELDAMAR [ELDANOR ?] AND THE PRINCES OFTHE ELDALIE
&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp add from History of Galadriel and celeborn [p.229-3O]

6 {OF THE SILMARILLS}THE DARKENING OF VALINOR [the subchapter*
&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp division is from X]

*FINWE AND MIRIEL [w/possible selections from Laws&amp;Customs...' HoME
&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp X]
* OF FEANOR AND THE UNCHAINING OF MELKOR
*OF THE SILMARILS AND THE UNREST OF THE NOLDOR
add from'Shibboleth of Feanor' ?[HoME 12]
* OF THE DARKENING OF VALINOR
add from [HoME 1] of the festival of valinor
* OF THE RAPE OF THE SILMARILLS
*OF THE THIEVES ' QUARREL

7 OF THE FLIGHT OF THE NOLDOR
add from'Shibboleth of Feanor'[HoMEXII]

8 OF THE SUN ANDTHE MOON AND THE HIDING OF VALINOR

9 OF MEN

10 OF THE SIEGE OF ANGBAND

11 OF BELERIAND AND IT'S REALMS /[XV] OF THE NOLDOR IN
&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp BELERIAND
&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp add from 'Shibboleth of Feanor' ?[HoME 12]

12 OF TURGON AND THE BUILDING OF GONDOLIN

13 CONCERNING THE DWARVES
&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp add from ' On Dwarves and Men' [HoME 12]

14 OF THE COMING OF MENINTO THE WEST
&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp add from' the Druedain'[Unfinished Tales] and Finrod and
&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp Andreth{HoME10} and On Dwarves and Men [HoME 12]&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp

15 OF THE RUIN OF BELERIAND AND THE FALL OF FINGOLFIN

16 ?- BEREN AND LUTHIEN
&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp add from Lays [HoME3]

[16] OF MAEGLIN
&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp add from 'maeglin' in HoMEXI

[2O] OF THE FIFTH BATTLE:NIRNAETH ARNOEDIAD

[21] OF TURIN TURAMBAR
addthe 'Narn I Chin Hurin' [U T} and 'Wanderings of Hurin' [HoME 11]
and from III

[22] OF THE RUIN OF DORIATH
add from II,IV,V and later sketches of Hurin?

[23] OF TOUR AND THE FALL OF GONDOLIN
add of 'Of Tour and his coming to Gondolin [Unfinished Tales ]and
details of the battle of the city fromHoME 2

[24] OF THE VOYAGE OF EARENDILAND THE WAR OF WRATH

Appendices to the Silm
LAWS AND CUSTOMS AMONG THE ELDAR
FINROD AND AND ANDRETH [ATHRABETH]
QUENDI AND ELDAR
TALE OF YEARS/ANNALS OF THE 1ST AGE
ELVISH DICTIONARY [?]


I have incorporated an edited bit of a note from Durelen that goes
into the idea of the reworking of the Akallabeth , and a history of the
2nd and 3rd ages.
&quot; The second book should [be] everything that occurred during the
Second Age in ME (insert The Druedain here) take most of the chapters
from UT. '&quot;
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Comments on the outline, possible revisions and omissions from the
'additions ' are of course most welcome.


Lindil is often found on posting on the New Silmarillion Canon Forum at the Barrowdowns discussion board. 'The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night, and awaken early before dawn- exchanging lore and wisdom such as they possessed , so that they should not fall back into the mean and low estate of those , who never knew or more sadly still, had indeed rebelled against the Light.' </p>
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The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night exchanging lore & wisdom such as they still possessed that they should not fall back into the mean estate of those who never knew or indeed rebelled against the Light.
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