*sigh*
they were men, the bodies of the men they use to be have long corroded away and their evil souls remain, so i can put up the argument that they are no longer men, they are twisted souls that use to be men. so with that the Valar can deny them and make them stay in limbo
oh and what about the Numenor, they were given longer life by the Valar, so technically their date of deathes were prolonged by the Valar.
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