Moderator's note
Looking over this thread, I see that those posting have been members long enough to know how discussions are conducted on the Downs. I am therefore simply deleting posts or parts thereof that address other members about their way of arguing instead of addressing the subject being discussed. Take personal comments to PM, people, and post on the topic of discussion here. Thank you! Thread temporarily closed for renovation...
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'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth.. .'
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