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Old 04-13-2001, 08:41 AM   #13
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Re: About Eriol -

Sorry for the delay:

Hannah3, Eriol &quot;One who dreams alone&quot; begins in Qenya, a very early lang related to BoLT. In this light, the BoLT Appendix reveals that the QL (Qenya Lexicon) elements of this interpretation are related to roots ERE &quot;remain alone&quot; and LORO &quot;slumber&quot; (and compare Qenya Lexicon roots OLO/OLOR ~ the latter from which olóre &quot;dream&quot; &amp; olórea &quot;dreamlike&quot; are derived for example). Still early, we may have Tolkien &quot;adding&quot; anyway, that perhaps that meaning was a pun, and that Eriol relates to QL ere(n) &quot;iron or steel&quot; and Qenya ollo, oldó &quot;cliff, seaward precipice&quot;, thus related to &quot;Gnomish&quot; Angol and the Iron cliffs of his home.

As I say, that is all early stuff. I contacted Lisa Star, a linguist (and Tolkien linguist) for her opinion on the name, and she thinks that Tolkien merely liked the form Eriol (ie that there was no real phonological reason for e &gt; i originally) and that the Prof. was hunting up a suitable Etymology for it in any case, but never really decided.

What we see in a 'later&quot; light is root ERE as a root from which &quot;lonely&quot; type words derive of course, and Quenya olos, olor &quot;dream, vision&quot; for examples (though see UT for specific applications)

Hope that clears up some <img src=smile.gif ALT=""> &quot;stuff&quot; in any event, I'm kinda a fan of the Eriol or Ælfwine &quot;framework&quot; myself, along with B. Baggins' translations of course! Cheers~

</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000317>cian</A> at: 4/13/01 11:21:08 am
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