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**lindil** · 08-10-2000, 01:36 PM

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Galpsi, you are right in pointing out my inconsistencies. I retract my statement of 'calling it the big picture might be going overboard'.I ws trying to be a little diplomatic-instead of sincere<img src=smile.gif ALT="

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I really think that if a writer left 40 or so pages of detailed writing about a major characther-that gives far more information upon which to understand that character-then anyone wishing to participate in a detailed analysis of said character would want to avail themselves of it.
clearly some people will come to a different conclusion--as in all things- so be it.
It is to me slightly ironic that by you seem to be erecting a sort of 'lothlorienizing'or maybe better explained as a girdle of melian around the lotr .
bout since several people concurred and said [paraphrase]' I think Galadriel is overrated' and I endeavored to to display what I think JRRT himself would call the 'background' using in my first post examples based almost exsclusively from LotR . This was I feel the more essential of the 2 major posts of mine .
I then turned back to Unfinished Tales chapter on Galadriel and Celeborn , and was suprised to find such a rich detail of her second age history.I surmise that JRRT has told us more of her in the second age than anyone else.
Now since these are JRRT's own thoughts I immediately inferred that others would be interested in the tale of her extensive travels and purpose. I can see that one would say the LotR stands alone if they just wanted to 'enjoy the story as -and not try and penetrate into the story behind the story'[a paraphrase of JRRT qouted in the silm. intro.] but this is after all a Tolkien discussion
and I come here to do that and am always happy to come away from the forums knowing something I didn't about the vast world of M.E.
I was also recently inspired by M. Martinez's recent essay on Gil-Galad where he pulls together an incredible amount of information from every source he can find and brings up points I had never seen .
These are JRRT's own thoughts on Galadriel- so I felt free and justified to use them , for 2 other reasons: 1] If one wrote to the Professor while he was alive and responding to these things , he has been shown to have drawn on the whole of the legendarium for his answers [sometimes 'co-creating' as he replied!].
2] I have seen people use the lore contained in his Letters and more often the Silm to settle [or I would rather say try and strike the bottom of the well] regarding matters in which the LotR leaves without answers;most recently in the matters of Tom Bombadil [his non-Maia nature ] Glorfindel , the 3 rings and the blue wizards that are mentioned only in U.T. and HoME these have always been seen as valid.
I have a spare copy of U.T and if you like I would be happy to send it to you , i f you don't have it.
lindil

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08-10-2000, 01:36 PM	#23
lindil Seeker of the Straight Path Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: a hidden fastness in Big Valley nor cal Posts: 1,680	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Haunting Spirit Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/bloody.jpg" align=absmiddle> galadriel Galpsi, you are right in pointing out my inconsistencies. I retract my statement of 'calling it the big picture might be going overboard'.I ws trying to be a little diplomatic-instead of sincere<img src=smile.gif ALT=""> I really think that if a writer left 40 or so pages of detailed writing about a major characther-that gives far more information upon which to understand that character-then anyone wishing to participate in a detailed analysis of said character would want to avail themselves of it. clearly some people will come to a different conclusion--as in all things- so be it. It is to me slightly ironic that by you seem to be erecting a sort of 'lothlorienizing'or maybe better explained as a girdle of melian around the lotr . bout since several people concurred and said [paraphrase]' I think Galadriel is overrated' and I endeavored to to display what I think JRRT himself would call the 'background' using in my first post examples based almost exsclusively from LotR . This was I feel the more essential of the 2 major posts of mine . I then turned back to Unfinished Tales chapter on Galadriel and Celeborn , and was suprised to find such a rich detail of her second age history.I surmise that JRRT has told us more of her in the second age than anyone else. Now since these are JRRT's own thoughts I immediately inferred that others would be interested in the tale of her extensive travels and purpose. I can see that one would say the LotR stands alone if they just wanted to 'enjoy the story as -and not try and penetrate into the story behind the story'[a paraphrase of JRRT qouted in the silm. intro.] but this is after all a Tolkien discussion and I come here to do that and am always happy to come away from the forums knowing something I didn't about the vast world of M.E. I was also recently inspired by M. Martinez's recent essay on Gil-Galad where he pulls together an incredible amount of information from every source he can find and brings up points I had never seen . These are JRRT's own thoughts on Galadriel- so I felt free and justified to use them , for 2 other reasons: 1] If one wrote to the Professor while he was alive and responding to these things , he has been shown to have drawn on the whole of the legendarium for his answers [sometimes 'co-creating' as he replied!]. 2] I have seen people use the lore contained in his Letters and more often the Silm to settle [or I would rather say try and strike the bottom of the well] regarding matters in which the LotR leaves without answers;most recently in the matters of Tom Bombadil [his non-Maia nature ] Glorfindel , the 3 rings and the blue wizards that are mentioned only in U.T. and HoME these have always been seen as valid. I have a spare copy of U.T and if you like I would be happy to send it to you , i f you don't have it. lindil </p> __________________ The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night exchanging lore & wisdom such as they still possessed that they should not fall back into the mean estate of those who never knew or indeed rebelled against the Light.