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Originally Posted by Mnemosyne
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Focusing on Isildur here...
1). It does not come on the brink of the Sammath Naur. That was only in movieverse, creating the beautiful plothole of "Why didn't Elrond just push the idiot in???" It does take place in Mordor, but presumably since Sauron's just been completely dispersed I don't think it had the same kind of fell power that it did in Frodo's time.
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Good catch! And I am always getting ****ed at others for mixing up the movie and the book.
Of course, with Isildur it is not completely clear how much he knew about the Ring and its dangers. Certainly he knew it belonged to Sauron, but it is not so clear that he knew that the Ring would overthrow his mind. With Frodo, but also with Boromir, they have the benefit of extensive discussions with Gandalf and Elrond, and then later even with Galadriel, about the outcome of taking the Ring and trying to use it (Boromir chose not to believe this, while Frodo did).