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Old 03-27-2001, 06:39 PM   #58
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Re: Outline

M:I figured as much.

Aiwendil : you do make good points and indeed I think that there will be no 'perfect Silmarillion w/out resorting to Fan-Fiction, and even then it will take a minor miracle, and prob, not be acheivable.

So a few points I can respond to are:
1] The outline is purely my vision of what I would like to see done prior to any attempt to fill in gaps w/ Fan fiction.Others at the Downs may and will have slightly [or greatly] differing takes on what principles to follow.
What the group may eventually decide to do will depend on the group.
2]I do recognize that not all would enjoy the canon expanded in the way I outline. Personally I have wanted to read the stories in Chronological fullnes from the 1st time I read UT in 1980 or so.
This is in my opinion preference - wether one would rather have tales w/ varying depth of treatment. I think we already have it in 77 as it is. Beren and Luthien and Turin even compressed are far longer and richer in detail than the opening 10 chapters and the conclusion of Gondolin, Doriath and Earendil.So completing the canon by including the longer Tales is in my opinion a hearkening back to a full treatment as given in Lost Tales.Therein the Valinorean and pre-Beren and Luthien Chapters are all much more briefly treated w/ a few exceptions [tale of the sun and moon comes immediatly to mind].
As to wether longer versions represents Bilbo's Translations from the Elvish or not any direct comment by CRT or JRRT on this may well have escaped my notice [as have many things] I would love to see any references you may be aware of.

I would ask wether you have read for example the Turin stiry splicing the 77 abd UT sections ? I have and I find the continuity of stiry makes up for the lack of continuity of style. Others won't.
I am not convinced that outside of their being a large group that can get together and hash this out any version other than CRT's will gain wide acceptance.There are as I have stated [and Michael Martinez also] room for a variety of treatments.
My guiding principles are in short to edit the Silm in the Way that JRRT would were he trapped in a room w/ 77/UT/HoME[ and the Vinyar Tengwar additions] and making no changes to the text other than udating of language to reflect the most current form of Quenya or Sindarin.The fiinal conceptions must be in synch w/ the LotR and Road Goes Ever on.


I much appreciate your giving the outline and project scrutiny of this sort and I look forward to seeing your views on the many ideas and views that come up.




This is arbitrary on some levels but I see it as a self -consistent set of principles

Lindil is oft found on posting on the Silmarillion Project at the Barrowdowns and working on a new Elven/Christian discussion board<a href="http://beta.ezboard.com/bosanwekenta" >Osanwe-Kenta</a> 'The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night, and awaken early before dawn- exchanging lore and wisdom such as they possessed , so that they should not fall back into the mean and low estate of those , who never knew or more sadly still, had indeed rebelled against the Light.' </p>
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The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night exchanging lore & wisdom such as they still possessed that they should not fall back into the mean estate of those who never knew or indeed rebelled against the Light.
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