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Old 09-08-2012, 12:09 PM   #15
William Cloud Hicklin
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William Cloud Hicklin is battling Black Riders on Weathertop.William Cloud Hicklin is battling Black Riders on Weathertop.William Cloud Hicklin is battling Black Riders on Weathertop.
"And why no Grishnack? I think I've asked that before so leave it alone if you like. If the point was to show how much pull the Ring had, why remove ol' Grish?"

The whole significance of the character had been wiped out by PJ assuming his audience was too stupid to deal with Saruman being a traitor to both sides, rather than just a minion of the Dark Tower. There's never a hint in the movie that the whole band weren't from Isengard.

Thus no conflict between the Ugluk and Grishnakh factions except over the triviality of fresh rations, and G and his followers becoming nothing more than stupid, appetitive Orcs as opposed to 'brainier' Ugluk (never mind that throughout the whole FR chase "Lurtz" comes across as a mere bestial predator)
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