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**lindil** · 09-27-2002, 03:09 AM

As for the Miriel Story , I would be inclined to keep it.

as it is a [ I believe] Tolkien's last word on the subject and off the top of my head I don't see it clashing greatly .

There are throughout the last 3 HoME volumes many little advancements and modifications of the 77/2001 Silm. In general our principles state to go w/ this as long as it does not turn over the whole cart of Apples [ as does say Myth's Transformed's Sun and Moon changes.] Although Saluotus is probably sensing my post in his sleep and concocting a new alias to post a rebut too me [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] .

I have myself given a little thought to extending the revision principle clear through the LotR to reinclude the King's letter and whateve JRRT eliminated due to space problems and ... here is the biggee, although I must underline it is purely my idea and not a group one. Alter Celeborn's history to co-incide w/ Shibboleth. Although Now that i think past the parentage, there is a much thornier issue of why he would stay if he was originally a Valinorean Elf. So it probably is intractable. but ...

09-27-2002, 03:09 AM	#3
lindil Seeker of the Straight Path Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: a hidden fastness in Big Valley nor cal Posts: 1,680	As for the Miriel Story , I would be inclined to keep it. as it is a [ I believe] Tolkien's last word on the subject and off the top of my head I don't see it clashing greatly . There are throughout the last 3 HoME volumes many little advancements and modifications of the 77/2001 Silm. In general our principles state to go w/ this as long as it does not turn over the whole cart of Apples [ as does say Myth's Transformed's Sun and Moon changes.] Although Saluotus is probably sensing my post in his sleep and concocting a new alias to post a rebut too me [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] . I have myself given a little thought to extending the revision principle clear through the LotR to reinclude the King's letter and whateve JRRT eliminated due to space problems and ... here is the biggee, although I must underline it is purely my idea and not a group one. Alter Celeborn's history to co-incide w/ Shibboleth. Although Now that i think past the parentage, there is a much thornier issue of why he would stay if he was originally a Valinorean Elf. So it probably is intractable. but ... __________________ The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night exchanging lore & wisdom such as they still possessed that they should not fall back into the mean estate of those who never knew or indeed rebelled against the Light.