Thread: Orcish Fear
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Old 11-08-2000, 01:34 PM   #49
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Re: Orcish Fear

Correct; and why Tolkien undertook the sub-creative effort to place it in context with the term Demon in the essay as stated above, and the ties to other forms of words with the same general meaning.

One must remember that LOTR and HOBBIT are techincally 'translations'.
See Appendix F (II) and HOBBIT Prologue.
This is why orc/orcs is used (as it also has a phonetic similarity to orch/yrch) as it also means Demon.

The truly significant additional fact gleaned from the essay is that at one time, Elves called ANY monster of Darkness; 'Demon' (as stated above).

For those questioning the meaning of this; Tolkien asserts that orcs are bred from men and beasts. Men awoke after Elves (very shortly afterward that is). As stated; this is an additional point to clarify the orc origins.

Even clearer; the 'orcs' that the Elves encountered were Rauku (Q. Uruku) forms, not 'orcs' as known in later histories. Merely demons of Darkness that the Elves did not know of. Only later, were classifications given.

All this effort to help explain orcs descending from Men, not elves. (Also asseted in QUENDI AND ELDAR from where this is taken and complimentary/adjutant papers. See MYTHS TRANSFORMED; Orcs).

But....

For those who truly believe that they are descended from Elves; that is your interpretation and personal belief. You are welcome to it.

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