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Old 09-03-2006, 12:56 PM   #196
Lalwendė
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Originally Posted by Raynor
I disagree; the Grace is evident at all the important steps: Bilbo finding the ring, the winning of the game by Bilbo, the elves finding the hobbits in the forest, Gandalf reluctance to talk to Saruman, the coming of the ring to Frodo, the coming of all of the fellowship to Rivendell, etc ETC - and these all are recognised, in the books, as manifestation of, what I call, Grace.
Only by some. They aren't categorically 'moments of grace' by a long way. In fact there have been several threads on here discussing whether the Ring itself is sentient and has deliberately betrayed its bearer or left them. There is also the thorny topic of fate vs free will to consider, including whether all the actions of the characters are fated (or determined by Wryd, considering the influence on Tolkien, too, of Beowulf), which would necessarily have implications for both characterisation and on the significance of events such as Frodo's acceptance of Gollum.
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