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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took
As it is said in old lore, go not to Huinesoron for counsel, for he will say both less and more!
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Originally Posted by Urwen
Well, where else could it have began? And don't say it began in Bag-End, because it didn't.
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Originally Posted by Huinesoron
It most certainly did not!
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You're still not thinking literally enough.
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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took
OIN is an anagram of 'No I,' which not very satisfyingly satisfies the clue, (that's not *much* worse than saying 'less and more.')
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It's not Oin, and there's no anagrams.
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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took
I think 'You're in second place' means the second letter is the 'red' one, so it could also mean that several dwarves (although 'any' would be hyperbolic) would fit the bill ... well, Oin, Bifur, Fili and Kili in this case, since Gimli isn't in the particular *sub-gaggle* of Erebor dwarves who went on the actual Quest of Erebor.
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You're correct about the second letter being the one you're after, and that more than one (though hardly 'several') dwarves can fit the clue. It's not too much of a hint to say I originally wanted to write 'brothers', but wasn't sure if I could, is it...?
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Originally Posted by Kath
Well, I've ended up in Buckland ...
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Yikes, don't go there!
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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took
Harad existed in the First Age, so maybe the spider is Ungoliant? Ungoliant still has a connection with Shelob.
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Nah; earlier than that.
hS