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Originally Posted by Formendacil
To judge by the fact that references of that nature are never to be seen in the post-Lost Tales era, I think we can say that that was an idea that Tolkien discarded...
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Momentary aside: Perhaps he didn't discard it as much as adapt it. Moria, the Dead Marshes, Cirith Ungol, Minas Morgul, the Morannon, and the rest of Mordor don't strike me as heavenly, or hospitable, or even nice. Even Isengard goes through a rather hellish phase. I think the theme of a hellish place in which one would much rather not be detained shows up again and again.
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Originally Posted by burrahobbit
but you didn't go there for being naughty, and they were destroyed a long time ago anyway
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True. But Morgoth was banished from Arda-- for being both naughty and unrepentant. I doubt the place he was banished to was Nice.
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