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Originally Posted by Eönwë
And if I remember correctly, didn't Manwë say something like "And he shall be the last". Maybe it disn't mean the last one, as in what Varda said when she answeres "Not the last" (maybe she was making reference to his self control and will in fact, we will never know, or maybe that fact that he thonks a lot?). Anyway, maybe Manwë meant that he would be the last one to remain true his mission (though we don't know about the blue wizards, but Tolkien says somewhere that he thinks they failed, and started cults themselves).
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Actually, it is not known what Manwë said. He said "something something [undecipherable words, no one knows what Tolkien exactly wrote there] last". Then Varda: "Not the last." And Saruman remembered these words and did not like Gandalf because obviously, he considered himself the First and now it seemed like there was something special on Gandalf.
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Originally Posted by Eönwë
I'm sure if Gandlf (obviously now back to being Olórin) came back to Valinor having succumbed to the ring (maybe even bringing it with him but most probably he would have stayed and ruled the Great Lands) Manwë would have given him a serious talking to (because he chose him), and Eönwë too (Lets not forget he played a similar part to Gandalf, though it was against a mightier foe).
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First and foremost, Gandalf having succumbed to the ring would not have come back to Valinor at all. Even if he wanted, they won't let him. And yes, maybe if he caused trouble in M-E, they would send someone after him - not necessarily Eönwë, as he was more for these "military actions", but some other, well, really, "Gandalf the White", or "Gandalf the Gray as he should be". Maybe even some Radagast could raise opposition, suddenly returning to his real mission ("awakened", so to say, by Valar/Eru)? Who knows.