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piosenniel · 07-22-2005, 01:12 AM

Dwarves, Lorien elves, Orcs

Let's clarify something right now -- the story line for the Dwarves is not running on the same timeline as the Elven-smiths. And neither is the Lorien Elves timeline. (Once the Dwarves and Lorien Elves travel through the mines and out to Ost-in-Edhel then we can all synchronize on the time of day, etc.)

And the Lindon Elves at present are way off in left-field somewhere . . .

At present - it is morning for the Elvensmiths.

The Dwarves, on the other hand, have just finished supper in their timeline and will be going the following day to fetch the Lorien Elves when they reach the place where the Celebrant River runs into the Mirrormere. It's 40 miles from gate to gate according to Tolkien. It will take the Dwarves 2 1/2 days from where they are (near the West-gate of Moria) to cross under the mountain and reach the East-gate of Moria (near the upper end of the Mirrormere).

It will also take the Lorien Elves about 2 1/2 days from the northwestern perimeter of Lorien to reach the spot by the Mirrormere where the Dwarves will pick them up.

*** So, we can take as long as it needs to get the Dwarves and Elves in position to meet, depending on what each of those groups want to cover. ***

The Orcs can either surprise the Elves as they near the Mirrormere and the Dwarves rush out to their aid. Or the Dwarves and Elves can meet and be ambushed from the hills as the group passes along the western edge of the Mirrormere heading for the East-gate to Moria.

Just surprise us Orcs - it's more fun that way!

How does this sound to everyone concerned?

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DWARVES

I think as we travel through the mines each day, we should pick up other Dwarves to take with us. How about 20 other Dwarves? Some should be friends for each of us. (We can all invent a battle buddy - no need to write a bio for them.) That way when we meet the Orcs, some Dwarves can be badly injured and perhaps 2 or 3 die who are our friends. It should fuel our anger even more.

What do you think? Any other suggestions?

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LORIEN ELVES - Arestevana and Seth Cotton

You have 100 Elves with you, correct? 60 archers and 40 swordsmen all on foot - + wooden carts with supplies drawn by horses.

Will it be Celeborn who leads the group this time?

What do you think about the plan for the battle before the Dwarves and Elves reach the safety of Moria? Any suggestions?

07-22-2005, 01:12 AM	#242
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Dwarves, Lorien elves, Orcs Let's clarify something right now -- the story line for the Dwarves is not running on the same timeline as the Elven-smiths. And neither is the Lorien Elves timeline. (Once the Dwarves and Lorien Elves travel through the mines and out to Ost-in-Edhel then we can all synchronize on the time of day, etc.) And the Lindon Elves at present are way off in left-field somewhere . . . At present - it is morning for the Elvensmiths. The Dwarves, on the other hand, have just finished supper in their timeline and will be going the following day to fetch the Lorien Elves when they reach the place where the Celebrant River runs into the Mirrormere. It's 40 miles from gate to gate according to Tolkien. It will take the Dwarves 2 1/2 days from where they are (near the West-gate of Moria) to cross under the mountain and reach the East-gate of Moria (near the upper end of the Mirrormere). It will also take the Lorien Elves about 2 1/2 days from the northwestern perimeter of Lorien to reach the spot by the Mirrormere where the Dwarves will pick them up. * So, we can take as long as it needs to get the Dwarves and Elves in position to meet, depending on what each of those groups want to cover. * The Orcs can either surprise the Elves as they near the Mirrormere and the Dwarves rush out to their aid. Or the Dwarves and Elves can meet and be ambushed from the hills as the group passes along the western edge of the Mirrormere heading for the East-gate to Moria. Just surprise us Orcs - it's more fun that way! How does this sound to everyone concerned? ------ DWARVES I think as we travel through the mines each day, we should pick up other Dwarves to take with us. How about 20 other Dwarves? Some should be friends for each of us. (We can all invent a battle buddy - no need to write a bio for them.) That way when we meet the Orcs, some Dwarves can be badly injured and perhaps 2 or 3 die who are our friends. It should fuel our anger even more. What do you think? Any other suggestions? --- LORIEN ELVES - Arestevana and Seth Cotton You have 100 Elves with you, correct? 60 archers and 40 swordsmen all on foot - + wooden carts with supplies drawn by horses. Will it be Celeborn who leads the group this time? What do you think about the plan for the battle before the Dwarves and Elves reach the safety of Moria? Any suggestions? __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside. Last edited by piosenniel; 07-22-2005 at 01:19 AM.