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Old 06-22-2020, 07:16 AM   #9852
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Originally Posted by Huinesoron View Post
Oh! #13: is this GANDALF to the guard (Hama?) outside Meduseld? When the Rohirrim are being rude and speaking Old English at everyone?

On a similar note, #9 sounds like someone in Rohan talking about Hobbits. I forget who that is, but the D says it might be THEODEN.

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Yes to both! I believe the guard is not Hama, but an unnamed person; they meet Hama inside when it comes time to lay down their weapons.

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As for themes: there seems to be an undercurrent of confusing language running through the password. Several (Aragorn, the Ring, my #13) have people using non-common languages; others (Ori, my #9, Tom Bom) have non-standard language use. Some (Bilbo, Saruman, Finrod) are being, or are noted for being, deliberately confusing, and I believe that only leaves Beor (who first appeared speaking an unfamiliar language) and Bard (who speaks Bird, as I recall).

This also fits nicely with both the password and the style.

hS
Great work!

The theme is not necessarily about confusing language, but the use of language in general, both as an enrichment of the legendarium and a real world phenomenon. I tried to pick speakers who stand out in terms of language use or linguistic ability (eg. Bilbo, who translated a bunch of stuff, Bard, who speaks Bird, Tom Bom who speaks gibberish, Ori who writes in a unique style, Gandlaf - "With Dwarf and Hobbit, Elves and Men, / with mortal and immortal folk, / with bird on bough and beast in den, / in their own secret tongues he spoke."), and quotes that highlight various uses of language (puns, misunderstandings, magic, and others). Interestingly, the two remaining quotes fall under "other", but both can be linked to confusion in some way. I didn't intend for confusion to be part of the theme, but it does seem to crop up.



THEME: THE PERKS AND PITFALLS OF LANGUAGE IN MIDDLE-EARTH AND BEYOND

1. BILBO: I eat well myself, and if you see what I mean, it’s better than cooking. (I am a good cook myself, and cook better than I cook, if you see what I mean.)
2. ARAGORN: I do, and now, if you have the floor, I don't care if you say Aranya or Kingsfoil for now. (I do so, and I care not whether you say now asëa aranion or kingsfoil, so long as you have some.)
3. ORI: I am Dimrill Dale Falls, owner of 10 new Ballins in Yeastrade Morei. (Yestreday being the tenth of novembre Balin lord of Moria fell in Dimrill Dale.)
4. BEOR: That darkness lies behind us, and our to to take turn our backward upon it, and our will will don't desire to returned thither even on intelligent. Westwards our hearts to to take achieved turn, and our believable this that our shall found lit. (A darkness lies behind us, and we have turned our backs upon it, and we do not desire to return thither even in thought. Westwards our hearts have been turned, and we believe that there we shall find Light.)
5*. A The three for us taking abrue to don't challenge that hundred, then our go taking ahead and speak taking feigned voices, lead the them in onto wood
6. BARD: Myself take save you are a the to lasted. You are a take always only failed my and always myself take recovered you are. Myself having you are a originate I father and himself originate for old. Conditionally to ever you are a come the originate forges the for true king the under mountain, went with currently and speedily good! ([Arrow! Black arrow!] I have saved you to the last. You have never failed me and always I have recovered you. I had you from my father and he from of old. If ever you came from the forges of the true king under the Mountain, go now and speed well!)
7. PRECIOUSSS: Unique rankings as a criterion for everyone A unique ranking to find them in a unique ranking so that everyone can enter and bind them in the dark. (One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.)
8*. SARUMAN: L? Why worry about each other? Will he give me rest at night or during the day?(Well? Why must you disturb my rest? Will you give me no peace at all by night or day?)
9*. THEODEN: The language has changed dramatically; But the wrong name indicates. A dream? I have not heard any reports that allow the truth. (Your tongue is strangely changed; but the name sounds not unfitting so. Hobbits! No report that I have heard does justice to the truth.)
10*. TOM BOMBADIL: Hello doll! Congratulations, doll! You call Dong Delu! Call Dong! Leave it together! Completed! Tom Boom, Jolly Tom, Tom Pompidillo! (Hey dol! merry dol! ring a dong dillo! Ring a dong! hop along! fal lal the willow! Tom Bom, jolly Tom, Tom Bombadillo!)
11*. FINROD: Stay, resist, fight against the government, keep secret, enter the government like a tower, break trust… (Sang in answer a song of staying, Resisting, battling against power, Of secrets kept, strength like a tower, And trust unbroken…)
12*. N So I said we would keep doing it, and I would increase the penalty. Work is an issue that we must work on in her song until the big day.
13. GANDALF: I understand your review, but some people know. If you want to answer, why don't you speak a common language with the West in the usual way? (Well do I understand your speech, yet few strangers do so. Why then do you not speak in the Common Tongue, as is the custom in the West, if you wish to be answered?)
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